Classic pet exp

[casdegere]

I am sooo glad my Chanter is level 60. I knew this was coming! Another reason that Shamans become the premium solo class from what I remembered on Live.

For those like MrSparkle that are complaining...its not about YOUR convenience. Its about EQclassic. Or as close to it that the Devs believe make their server classic. I played a Chanter and a Rogue from 1999 on on live. Rogues were broken and Enchanters were badass...at first. Nerf after nerf and fix after fix...the Rogue got better and my Chanter got worse hehe. Both classes ended up almost always having to group to get xp consistently.

[MrSparkle001]

Originally Posted by casdegere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am sooo glad my Chanter is level 60. I knew this was coming! Another reason that Shamans become the premium solo class from what I remembered on Live.

For those like MrSparkle that are complaining...its not about YOUR convenience. Its about EQclassic. Or as close to it that the Devs believe make their server classic. I played a Chanter and a Rogue from 1999 on on live.

Complaining about this change? No. I'm saying without fixing pet aggro and delay this change is too much. It's not classic right now. My main is a necro so this change doesn't affect me (so far).

But, this change should have been stalled until at least aggro was fixed. Bonus if it was stalled until pet delay was fixed. Then it would be classic.

What's troublesome is how a dev said pet delay would never be changed. That's what I'm complaining about. Pet delay was classic, so why intentionally leave that out but add the others? Why cherry-pick some changes but not others? Why cherry-pick the nerfs but not the bonuses? They're all classic, they should all be implemented, right? Can anyone here honestly say "no" to that?

[mimixownzall]

This only works while soloing right? It shouldn't work in groups, correct?

[Daldaen]

Change mob hitboxes! Not classic and makes AE kiting harder than it was on live [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.].

[mala]

i can say with almost 100% certainty that if pet agro isnt fixed but they retain this new pet damage rule i will never play my mage again, nor will i play on red99 (which ive been looking forward to for months). There is no point in trying to dance around broken mechanics, if they want classic then the rest of the mechanics that have to do with pets need to be fixed as well.

and before i get abunch of "good no one cares", "its their server be grateful", "otherbullshittycomeback0131415"... chasing away people should NEVER be the goal of the dev's, and changing fundamental mechanics without changing all other associated mechanics does just that.

[falkun]

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

because the devs want the only effective solo class to be necro and druid, anything else is Not Classic (tm)

You forgot Bard, and Wizards at higher levels.

Originally Posted by JayDee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

why would you fucking nerf charm soloing exp of all things. Nerf PBAOE and bard swarm kiting exp

They did nerf Bard AE kiting (as per classic timeline, and even though it will get repealed during Velious):

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If a mob is moving (fear/flee don't count) when the damage from a dot is applied, it will take 66% of the damage that it would have normally taken.

Also, Charm swarm kiting has never worked on this server due to the way aggro transfers, so bards cannot use a kiting method that was viable on classic Live.

Originally Posted by Nihilist_santa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also have you guys played a lowbie toon recently? Where the hell are the warriors? Im stuck grouping with hybrids which again suck exp. All the exp changes in this game almost made me quit live originally. I played troll sk. Sucked ass being passed for groups because of exp penalty.

I feel no sympathy for a person that perpetuates a discrimination that he has been on the other side of.

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I feel no sympathy for a person that perpetuates a discrimination that he has been on the other side of.

You are a moron. It is not perpetuated discrimination . Its not like i am adhering to some unfounded stereotype. It is a FACT that hybrids have xp penalties and the group suffers for it. I know this because my main on live was a troll SK. I am not trying to be a hypocrite ffs I am trying to avoid the pitfalls that I encountered on live when i originally played this game. I think most of us are. The people who are here saying how great groups are with hybrids probably didn't even start playing til the penalty was removed. Revisionist history abounds here.

The reason I am upset is because this so called "classic" experience is anything but unless you consider lack of classes and content classic because that is about all you get. I am however grateful for the chance to play I just always thought the whole "nerf" concept was stupid. Its based on someone else s interpretation of how a class should be played. Well if it is truly classic there should not be that much to interpret. We all know the patch history and nerfs we know what classes were capable of and what they were not. We know which BAD decisions were made by the devs and we know what they did to fix it.

If these changes are due to Red99 then again that is not classic. If anything pvp was so horribly unbalanced and broken in classic because they did not choose to balance the game around pvp encounters. This is a pve game with pvp tacked on as an afterthought.

If I am mistaken about anything I will humbly concede but honestly I think people suffer from selective memory here. And although I am complaining it is only because I thoroughly have been enjoying myself on this server however my enjoyment is lessened on a regular basis...

The people that suffer most from this are the late comers. The ones who didn't plan their path ahead of time to take advantage of nerfs to items and classes that were coming. The people who are happy about this already have their cash cow pet class/soloer and now are mad because their melee alt isnt leveling as fast.

[Runeblade]

Yeah I'm tired of the "it's classic!" commentary when it's far from classic in so many aspects. If we're going "classic", we should get all the good with the bad, not just the nerfs! Or better yet, leave it the way it was since it's been that way for a long time and didn't seem to bother anyone, and the improved system is pretty close to classic era anyway.

[Tuffpuppy]

P1999 home of "Classic" everquest. Or rather some peoples own vision of classic everquest. Maybe if they get around to fixing before they nerf I will log back in again, till then toodles.

[casdegere]

My alt is a Human Ranger. Heavily twinked but still a Ranger (-40%). I group mainly with a Wood Elf Druid, a Human Enchanter and an Iksar SK(-68%). Everyone gets xp, we have a great time, rinse repeat. Not sure what the issues are?

Soloing was never easy on live regardless of class. One false turn for a Bard during a mass kite and you might be screwed. Spells being resisted as a caster class and same result was possible.

For inconsistencies, bitching won't get anything changed. The devs respond to proof of what you say otherwise it is mainly viewed I think as an opinion. They have built this server and its pretty darn close to what I remember. 1000's of tweaks based on old information that they investigated or users submitted over time. Here you are bitching about 1 or 2 without doing any research. Buck up or shut up. I bet you people are likely to show up at a party empty-handed and then complain about the dip and the brand of beer available to consume.

On live I played many classes including an Iksar Necro to around 29-30th level and soloing was never piece of cake. Resists, failure to do enough damage, adds, what-have-you. If you want to solo that's fine but I do not remember it being pleasant for me during Kunark/Velious era.