Interesting read.

[Lagaidh]

I always wondered what shit would look like as text. Now I know.

[Feachie]

Originally Posted by Asher [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yea, it is very difficult for a program to reveal hidden passwords that are stored on your computer. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Asher

you guys are pretty stupid.

what code is on your machine that can "reveal hidden passwords?" because i don't see anything in that .dll, and it sure as hell doesn't exist in the eq files.

there are enough knowledgeable people on this server who are into programming and have looked at the file. if there was legitimate concern, it would been brought forth in a concise manner WITH EVIDENCE which so far not a single person has brought.

only tin foil hat wearing paranoia.
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the only reason trojans are showing up are because the ones who got caught, big toop i'm betting, reported the file as a trojan. Possible? yes. Plausible? YES

[Dirtnap]

There is enough concern from a lot of people, that i am surprised that the Dev's haven't said a single word on the subject. Just about everyone i talk to about it in game doesn't like that it could be used to steal their information.

[Kope]

Originally Posted by Dirtnap [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is enough concern from a lot of people, that i am surprised that the Dev's haven't said a single word on the subject. Just about everyone i talk to about it in game doesn't like that it could be used to steal their information.

Rogean said at least twice i've read to add it as an exception and that it's a false positive.

There is also a lot of concern in our country about us being a giant soviet spy country....concern != reality.

[Nyrod]

not that its related but i did a scan a few nights after the suspensions because my keyboard was doing wierd shit while in game and avira detected trojans in patcher.exe and updater.exe in my EQ folder.

i swear i cant remember where i got these files from, im thinking the patcher.exe was at one time given out by voidd (to get spellfile/eqhost file setup) for vztz and may just be a false positive but have no clue where updater.exe came from

deleted both.


Begin scan in 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Sony\EverQuest\Updater.exe'
C:\Program Files (x86)\Sony\EverQuest\Updater.exe
[DETECTION] Is the TR/Downloader.Gen Trojan

Virus or unwanted program 'TR/Downloader.Gen [trojan]'
detected in file 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Sony\EverQuest\Patcher.exe.
Action performed:


anyone seen those files around? i searched the forums and didnt see anything similar such a duxa's patcher

[username17]

Originally Posted by Juugox2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

in all reality if you dont use these programs you got shit to worry about do you really care what they see on your comp? i mean unless you got child porn then stfu

Yes, yes I do care about what they see on my computer.
I have my tax records, banking information, morgate bills, e-mail, medical information, etc.

Just because I have nothing to hide does not mean that I should give up my privacy.

You're all high and mighty. You don't cheat. Could I please have access to all of your files now? kthxbai

[Feachie]

Originally Posted by Nyrod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

not that its related but i did a scan a few nights after the suspensions because my keyboard was doing wierd shit while in game and avira detected trojans in patcher.exe and updater.exe in my EQ folder.

i swear i cant remember where i got these files from, im thinking the patcher.exe was at one time given out by voidd (to get spellfile/eqhost file setup) for vztz and may just be a false positive but have no clue where updater.exe came from

deleted both.


Begin scan in 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Sony\EverQuest\Updater.exe'
C:\Program Files (x86)\Sony\EverQuest\Updater.exe
[DETECTION] Is the TR/Downloader.Gen Trojan

Virus or unwanted program 'TR/Downloader.Gen [trojan]'
detected in file 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Sony\EverQuest\Patcher.exe.
Action performed:


anyone seen those files around? i searched the forums and didnt see anything similar such a duxa's patcher

i've only played on p99 with this install, and i use duxa's, but i don't have either of those files. must be vztz.

my machine has had clean scans for several months via kaspersky, not even alerting for the .dll the banned have reported as a trojan.

[Jeron]

I would like to know when I am installing anything that is intended to spy on aspects of my computer. I would agree with spying on my computer for the purpose of reduction of use of inappropriate tools while playing here.

The mob mentality about all this is nutty though.

It doesn't seem like to much to ask to know that a patch will start looking at my process list and port usage. Or now to know what exactly it is doing/capable of doing. I don't understand why anyone would not want to know this.

[Spoodowg2000bc]

cheaters lashing back

[Spoodowg2000bc]

Originally Posted by Sake [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That isn't at all relevant in a situation like this. The biggest issue is what happens when an outside source manages to get the information? Sure the staff may be using only the information they need. But it comes down to how the information is stored etc and what kind of security is in place to protect anyones privacy against 3rd parties.

Also does it pull as much information as claimed? If it just checks the processes running ok, but if it is gaining a lot more information as suggested in the OP then what? Its a very thin line, with no details from those that are issuing the invasion of peoples privacy.

However since you brought it up even though slightly unrelated, when has being well off stopped anyone from scamming people out of their money? Hell, look at most big corps who do *anything* for a penny.

People like EA do the same thing in a sense of invasion of privacy (brought up w/ origins and they have been doing it in the past) where they will scan your system etc and people are furious/up in arms about that. However EA has likely taken security measures and has the ability to compensate if something does happen to arise, also you agree to them doing such in their EULA when you accept it.

However here it was covertly given out to players without a single word, no aggreement was made by any of the users, etc etc. Also they aren't a big corp w/ the money and security to back such information. Like I said its a thin line, and its pretty brutal not seeing any information from the staff.

This is one of those issues that requires transparency and not a if you don't like it get out. I am assuming anyone that accepts their privacy being covertly invaded and has the DONT LIKE IT GET OUT attitude is probably the same type of people that post their most personal details on facebook for the world to see which is insanity.

you got temporarily banned and deleveled LOL