To the R99 Staff and Players -

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by RealSmedy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm pretty sure there's more unlegit scumbags on p99 then there was on vz/tz

rofl.

[Macken]

Originally Posted by Buhbuh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How did it take you that long to understand we wanted GMs policing trains if at all possible?

Leaderboard was in an era of EQ well beyond its prime. It holds really no significance. If you need to be feared or known on here, don't suck at PvP.

Assuming "we" is you and a mouse in pocket, about 40 posts back when you first mentioned it. I thought it was cute you were trying to insinuate i wanted trains. I was wondering when you were gonna figure it out. 40 posts i reckon. Grats on your discovery.

Leaderboard is Velious era as well as being uniquely sullon. It was there on launch and therefore SZ "classic". I guess real classic and Kunark is EQ prime. Everything else is so last year and insignificant.

[raptorak]

I will be playing this server but probably not PKing unless PKed myself. I like to have the danger and possibility of being killed by other players, without necessarily partaking myself. That is one of the reasons I play a primarily KoS class. Any yellow text for my death is a little bit e-peen but I don't really care so let them rub it in - I've died a million times in EQ, many times I have fallen at the hands of the mighty decaying skeleton so some guy in the best gear exploiting a glitch or getting in the last hit to kill me whilst I am soloing doesn't really phase me.

Playing PVP servers doesn't necessarily mean you are going to kill everyone you see, you see. I would rather this were race war rather than all out PVP and didn't have exp loss when you die (can imagine rage quitting a few times thanks to that), but you can't have everything, and this will do just fine. In the end, EQ pvp is unbalanced, broken and technically quite rubbish, however it can be lot of fun and at least the option is there on a PVP server. Being good at it, however, is not really anything to be proud but if it floats your boat let them have their yellow text, makes no difference to me.

[Rushmore]

Originally Posted by Macken

Exception?

I didn't hate or cheat anyone.

Bro i just mean u are on the other side of what the majority of "tzvz vets" want

I like your free trade pvp idea but it would hurt population

[Rushmore]

Originally Posted by raptorak

I will be playing this server but probably not PKing unless PKed myself. I like to have the danger and possibility of being killed by other players, without necessarily partaking myself. me.

I started out on 1.0 like you 4 years ago. Even though its gay when you get pvped it sure as hell a lot more exciting and it keeps you on your toes. 4 years later i would say i seek pvp more and have become better at it. I could never ever go Blue again and that goes for any game.
There really is nothing out there that is a better gaming experience like Everquest w/pvp.

Welcome bro.

[vinx]

Originally Posted by raptorak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I will be playing this server but probably not PKing unless PKed myself. I like to have the danger and possibility of being killed by other players, without necessarily partaking myself.

^ this is what will make the server more fun and enjoyable imo
more reminisce of EQlive classic servers.

fuck what all the vztz players want, they are the hardcore.
will they strive to make a name for themselves here? ofc but they will be there regardless what shit box is up and content to pvp for bragging rights amongst themselves.

Theres alot of sideline players who have played red on live that wont deal with broken servers or who dont share the same attitude of these vztz players. i mean you cant blame them really for falling into that cycle year after year, failed box after failed box. 150/3= 50 actual players who are all hardcore and have been flaming each other for years about whos best. they forget what live was actually like.

with an actual server and competent staff who are known for putting out quality stuff, i hope the sideline players come back to red and anyone else wanting to give it a try.
we've all seen some interest, albeit small from non-pvpers wanting to try a red server. which makes more sense now then it did on live (or P99)
because at this point and time most have done blue live, then relived it on classic P99 and the only thing missing now is to take part in a red server the way it was before things got progressively fooked on live eg, instances/augs/pok books etc
is it balanced? no but this is closest anyone will find to the golden age of EQ pvp.

what will put the icing on the cake for this server is the community. this server needs the anti-pk/roleplayers/pks/white knights and noobs .. thats really the only balance this server needs to recreate a classic red server.

[Tajin]

Originally Posted by Bombfist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pipe dream, players aren't of the same ability as they were in 1999, item loot has been tested in the present day with the players on this forum that are going to populate this server, it doesn't work - people bag their shit and run for the hills, it shows a MASSIVE decline in pvp. Why would people be any different, the only people left who will be affected by pvp loot will be the people who are terrible. Personally i like item loot, but it just doesn't promote pvp in the slightest, there are no "new" players coming to this server so you're taking a population of blue players, who like loot obviously and the pvp community who have tested this in the last year and it failed on a massive scale.

You won't get anything like your 1999 rallos, firstly because the player base isn't spasticated anymore, then there's the fact that there's no real tie to a free emulated server - they lose their gear "fuck this" bai.

With Rogeans stamp on this server, the population will flourish! With that being said it won't be hard finding pvp. When was this tested?? Beginning of box 3.0? I had a blasty blast when item loot was enabled on it. I dont think it was a failure.
But I agree some people will run for the hills to save their gears, but alot of people will run regardless if its enabled or not. People just need to man up! How can u not want item loot!?!? Gank people and steal their GEARS! WTF whats not to like.

[Tamiah2011]

Originally Posted by Macken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Perfect example of why gms have no business getting involved in pvp.

Crash course for the clueless: All the top pvpers will be petitioned by those who do not understand what just happened. Or because they simply can't stand dieing, they will petition incessantly. If you don't have a "watch/warn this guy" by your name, then you aren't doing it right. I was petitioned daily on live and never banned because gms there were relatively much better than VZTZ staff. They could tell that despite appearances, I wasn't doing anything against the rules.

If a guy who plays eq, plays pvp emu, gms pvp emu, is involved with the gaming industry can't figure it out after all this time, then how can you expect the average gm to?

If you don't know how to gm, watch the guys who are petitioned every day. They are the ones who will teach you whats up.

If a gm thinks someone is doing something wrong, just because he is petitioned alot, fire that GM. Hes a moron who will wind up just like Searyx.

...the laughing stock of a whole internet community.

GM should never never be involved pvp,Unless it a server issue and not a player issue.Asheron call PvP server let you know that your playing at your own risk and that GM would never get involved in player issues.The server ran awsome and player alway handle things between wach other,Was great times.RZ had a bunch of crupt GM feeding there friends items and banning players and after the scandle RZ was never the same again.GM should never ever been involved in the players side of game especially in Pvp.

[Lasher]

Gm should police exploits and hacking, any play nice rules they want should be hardcoded to some degree to eliminate burnt out and to remove spur of the moment shitty GM judgment call that is usually made with 10% of the required information and has a 50% accuracy.

GM usually get called in and show up after the atrocity has happened so they are already playing catch up and they are talking to 2 or 3 people they believe will give them reliable information but the whitest of knights will always have a different subjective view of the encounter compared to counterpart of the fight.

Now i am for very little PNP but if gms are going to try to say LNS must be followed, no bind camping, no bindrushing, then hard code it so gms are not involved

If GM want LNS, make the corpse pop at entrance or some shit when person is pked because it cant be policed with any margin of success

No Bind rushing or bind camping make it that when pked you are perma rooted DA for 5 mins or some shit.

Now i am not for any of this but having gms get petitioned everytime a person thinks they are getting mistreated and skewing the story to make them look like an angel and having the gm make a judgment call doesnt work.

GMs cant be on 24/7, cant be everyone at once when they are on and always show bias even if its unitentional. If salty is playing and has a 100% legit claim of being CC or something i guarantee a GM wont care/will think salty deserves it/ or will lesson the punishment towards the attacker

So either No PNP which i think it should or hardcode what you can and what you cant hardcore then tell the players tough shit and go watch Smurf 3d

[XiakenjaTZ]

We begin to diverge from classic then. I would rather see what Lasher suggests if it becomes a problem. Something like you suggest can always be added after we are playing and when the GMs get fed up.

We are all making suggestions for things we are not sure will be a huge issue.