Discussion: Play Nice (Training, Bind Camping)

[Galacticus]

Originally Posted by Rushmore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

someone mentioned this before me but training will kill a lot of massive pvp fights that would have happened if training was illegal.

Very true.

[Envious]

Originally Posted by Haul [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Allow training and bind camping. Seriously people can make an alt if they getting owned on hardcore. Just come back for corpse hour or 2 later, or the next day if you can't compete. Anything disallowing them is not classic, and just adds to the list for losers to go "im reporting you to GM cause I'm not good enough to play this game and you're better." Shouldn't be rules on this stuff ya'll are just making it more pve like the servers you guys experienced. Training and bind camping are part of EQ pvp.

Originally Posted by Aenor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And no Pvt. Pyle doesn't have a point. We're not advocating no rules. We're advocating as few rules as possible so P99 doesn't put itself in the position SOE was with unenforceable rules.

Originally Posted by Buhbuh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I found on live that a good majority of training was unintentional.

This is true, so as I stated earlier, your going to be putting the GMs in charge of deriving INTENT behind actions. This is something that the fucking legal system has not learned how to do after 400years? This is asking for cries of GM favoritism upon every decision made. And you think the nonsense stupid fuck shit about P99's Trak poopsock is bad...

Originally Posted by Rushmore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

someone mentioned this before me but training will kill a lot of massive pvp fights that would have happened if training was illegal.

Neg. If you have a rule against it, then people have to clear to the other group (this only means for large group pvp), which might give that group time to kill NPC X and gate out. It will make people TIMID about pvp. Same as YT, it makes MOST people TIMID about PvP (when there is a chance they lose).

And I dont want to play on a server full of Rushmores, all half fags and scared to engage. I want a frothing cesspool of online rage and violence.

[Rushmore]

Originally Posted by Envious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And I dont want to play on a server full of Rushmores, all half fags and scared to engage. I want a frothing cesspool of online rage and violence.

No you just want a bunch of trains. Entrance to sebillis is an example someone already used. Some of the best fights happened here. Though if training were allowed this would never happen...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4ZuKWWv0q0&NR=1

[Envious]

Originally Posted by Rushmore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No you just want a bunch of trains. Entrance to sebillis is an example someone already used. Some of the best fights happened here. Though if training were allowed this would never happen...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4ZuKWWv0q0&NR=1

AE'ing zone lines is such fun pvp... But next your going to want a rule against that as well.

I had no idea Seb Golems spawned at ent... obviously you know more about Kunark era EQ than I do.

Training was simply part of EQ PvP on live. Sorry you guys have only played PvP on an EMU~

[lethdar]

Originally Posted by Envious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

your

I'm sure you mean you're, as in you're a moron. I'm sure your memories of running away at the slightest chance of pvp happening stem from your nobody status on tz and your shit guild gating away whenever anyone else tried to contest them. You see, in non pussy guilds you'll actually stay and position yourself to gain the advantage once you see them zone into hate and fight for innoruuk rather than trying to ninja him and gate out. I know, this is a scary and foreign concept to you right?

Really, I'm sure that you must either be the most moronic person on these forums or a troll at this point.

TRAINING MUST BE LEGAL TO PROMOTE MASS PVP HURRRRR.

[Rushmore]

Originally Posted by Envious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

AE'ing zone lines is such fun pvp... But next your going to want a rule against that as well.

I had no idea Seb Golems spawned at ent... obviously you know more about Kunark era EQ than I do.

Training was simply part of EQ PvP on live. Sorry you guys have only played PvP on an EMU~

I believe one of those was a pet gone bad. And yes there was some training and re spawns at the end. But again if training were legal none of that would have happened.

[JayDee]

I will relentlessly train lethdar if training is allowed

Infact, it will probably be the only thing I do on the server if that's the rules (or absence thereof).

[Envious]

Originally Posted by lethdar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TRAINING MUST BE LEGAL TO PROMOTE MASS PVP HURRRRR.

Re-read the past 11 pages to catch up to conversation.

And a few things:
People that like to be grammar nazi's always have valid points.
I was prominent in more than a few guilds, and have been on top PvE and PvP wise of a PvP EMU server, as well as PvP Live server.
Your voice sounds like you got throat fucked by a gorilla.

[beentheredonethat]

Originally Posted by Rushmore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I believe one of those was a pet gone bad. And yes there was some training and re spawns at the end. But again if training were legal none of that would have happened.

I don't think training is possible to enforce unless there is some server code changes where mobs would simply disappear back to their bind spot. It was never enforced on live, so I'd imagine it isn't that simple.

[Envious]

And lets review Lethdar's VZ/TZ track record.

Got name being part of a mage gank squad that used MQ
Rode zerg guild coat tails for gear
Was part of Wipe Committee, helped kill server
Caught a ban for stealing shit off someone else's char

What am I missing?