How far are we from AI recreating EQ99?

[BradZax]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That modern AI could make EQ (with more power).

Never claimed that.

[BradZax]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys are getting trolled hard.

I know these two retards enough to know that this is serious to them, and it really matters.

And it does to me too.

[OriginalContentGuy]

Originally Posted by BradZax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok heres the answer to op:

Right now anyone (except for DSM or Loramin) can.

Bet your life.

[BradZax]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No one but Brad gets to claim anything, but everything he claims is true: reality be damned!

Im going to use this moment to be teachable.

You know how someone made the loramin is an asshole thread?

Here's the thing, this is what you do:

I am making a general claim about technology.

Your claim is that I am wrong, and uneducated.

You offer no counter point, no shared progress-able goal. No interesting shared information.

Just a new topic: That I am an idiot, and should shut up.

That is why you are an asshole, Laura.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys are getting trolled hard.

Probably. It has crossed my mind.

For BradZax and anyone else interested in AI coding, go and try something like Claude Code. You will see for yourself that it makes mistakes. BradZax's suggestion:

Originally Posted by BradZax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You copy and paste the code and tell the LLM you're working with: "it didnt work"

and it tries again.

And you say "it didnt work again is there a forum I can post on to ask for help?"

And it tells you where and how to ask for help.

Admits that he will outsource his problems to other humans, rather than the AI. So I am not sure why he believes ChatGPT when it says AI could do 40% of the production work in an Everquest-style MMO.

Basically the pipeline seems to be:

1. Generate AI code.
2. Get stuck debugging it since you do not understand it.
3. Ask other humans for help and hope they answer. Many programming forums are not keen to simply write your program for you.
4. Repeat until finished with the game.

I don't see this pipeline working too well.

[BradZax]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For BradZax and anyone else interested in AI coding, go and try something like Claude Code. You will see for yourself that it makes mistakes. BradZax's suggestion:.

Your ASSumption that only you has done this is what makes you a donkey.

[OriginalContentGuy]

Sure thing exlax.

[BradZax]

Is that what reading this thread feels like for non dsm loramin or brad posters?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by BradZax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your ASSumption that only you has done this is what makes you a donkey.

This is literally how everything is currently made you donkey.

You think people just born out of the womb programing video games?

They learn how to do it.

Youtube could teach anyone how to do it.

Ai makes it vastly easier.

IDK how to tell you this but you put your pants on one leg at a time.

At no point have I argued that ai will do magic. No matter how many times you and this Laura chick keep trying to say AI cant.

But I did say that in 1 to 2 years you could have a working game like everquest with the help of AI and youtube.

You're a donkey.

We have both agreed multiple times in this thread that people can learn how to make video games via youtube, chatGPT, etc.

I don't know why we keep going in circles on that point. There is no reason to act as if we disagree.

I disagree with the idea that AI will significantly speed up the production of an Everquest-style MMO, whether that is generating training material for the programmer, code generation, art generation, etc.

Right now AI makes too many mistakes, and lacks the consistency to accurately produce thousands of lines of code, hundreds of textures that match the art style, 3d models that are game ready, etc.

This is why you need experienced developers watching the AI output at all times. There are times where the amount of work it takes to fix what the AI did is longer than simply doing it yourself.

[BradZax]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We have both agreed multiple times in this thread that people can learn how to make video games via youtube, chatGPT, etc.

I don't know why we keep going in circles on that point. There is no reason to act as if we disagree.

Because you wont say "oh, i thought you meant something else, my bad!"