New Druid Advice from the experts

[Goregasmic]

The ring is still 6k on green. Depending on what his main is, might be faster to farm it. If you average the self reported data on the goblin ring page it's about an 8h camp with ~3% drop rate. In my experience this checks out but people hate that camp because it is very involved. OP can't AE the entire area but high 10s or early 20s he can just kill stuff until he gets a courier and then whack top mob on track every 30 sec until he finds spawn point (there's like 6+ of them). Or he could level to 40ish and come back to do the camp more comfortably if he still wishes to get a ring.

Real talk though, mid/high 40s you could charm in a couple of places but is there anything that beats quadding wyverns? The exp there is insane and the money is alright.

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The ring is still 6k on green. Depending on what his main is, might be faster to farm it. If you average the self reported data on the goblin ring page it's about an 8h camp with ~3% drop rate. In my experience this checks out but people hate that camp because it is very involved. OP can't AE the entire area but high 10s or early 20s he can just kill stuff until he gets a courier and then whack top mob on track every 30 sec until he finds spawn point (there's like 6+ of them). Or he could level to 40ish and come back to do the camp more comfortably if he still wishes to get a ring.

Real talk though, mid/high 40s you could charm in a couple of places but is there anything that beats quadding wyverns? The exp there is insane and the money is alright.

I’m of the mind that nothing beats exp. Being able to make/save money as you do it is nice but should never slow the process. You can make money and farm gear at 60.

If I had enough for a gobby ring and a few main spells that’s what I’d do at the expense of any other gear. I would charm in Oasis then move to Overthere for a bit, then Velious cougars in Iceclad and off to GD for Kodiaks and Drakkel wolves.

The advantage of quadding is not speed but quality of life. You can blow your whole mana bar and then sit and go make a sandwich. At 46 with a Lumi staff you can easily xp in Highkeep, Oggok, and Grobb off single targets. It seems like a silly click but level 45 I couldn’t clear all Grobb ent before repops and with it at 46 I was speeding through them and Nobles have even less hit points. Really, it just opens up places to go if your quad or charm spot is taken. Later this approach is replaced by dot rotting.

I don’t know about speed. My guess is if you have a lock on bear pits nothing comes close. Quading wyverns and then suits or raptors is tolerable for those AFK breaks. Dot rotting is a 3rd but lets you think outside the box. I did some charming in Chardok and it was ok I guess.

The fact that druids have three very viable ways to solo exp is crazy. For me, I’d probably rather dot rot or charm than quad. 57+ with bonds of Tunare maybe it’s less painful but snaring four times and circling would add time and annoyance. My wiz spoiled me I guess.

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I’m of the mind that nothing beats exp. Being able to make/save money as you do it is nice but should never slow the process. You can make money and farm gear at 60.

If I had enough for a gobby ring and a few main spells that’s what I’d do at the expense of any other gear. I would charm in Oasis then move to Overthere for a bit, then Velious cougars in Iceclad and off to GD for Kodiaks and Drakkel wolves.

The advantage of quadding is not speed but quality of life. You can blow your whole mana bar and then sit and go make a sandwich. At 46 with a Lumi staff you can easily xp in Highkeep, Oggok, and Grobb off single targets. It seems like a silly click but level 45 I couldn’t clear all Grobb ent before repops and with it at 46 I was speeding through them and Nobles have even less hit points. Really, it just opens up places to go if your quad or charm spot is taken. Later this approach is replaced by dot rotting.

I don’t know about speed. My guess is if you have a lock on bear pits nothing comes close. Quading wyverns and then suits or raptors is tolerable for those AFK breaks. Dot rotting is a 3rd but lets you think outside the box. I did some charming in Chardok and it was ok I guess.

The fact that druids have three very viable ways to solo exp is crazy. For me, I’d probably rather dot rot or charm than quad. 57+ with bonds of Tunare maybe it’s less painful but snaring four times and circling would add time and annoyance. My wiz spoiled me I guess.

Straight up grinding gets boring sometimes so I like to take detours for extra QOL or gear upgrades. I guess on an alt you can literally afford to straight up grind but on a first toon it is nice to get some spare change and fill gear slots. If you can exp doing it, even better. If you have a 60 chanter farming felspine/chardok that's another story.

I brought up wyverns because I went there with my chanter and with regular charm double kills I went from 45 to 51 at record speed so I guess quadding is in the same league. Charming is good but if you have better opportunities why not? If you hate quadding then disregard that advice.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Yes Loramin, saying "I don't adivse doing X" is not the same as saying "X is bad, don't do it".

I was referring to this:

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My mage did that camp from like 12 to 24 and saw plenty of couriers but no ring. Seeing bloodstone rings in inventories gives me ptsd.

As I keep saying, reading comprehension is not your strongest skill. I don't mean that as an insult, but you obviously aren't reading things or reading them correctly. You've done this multiple times now in this thread.

Stick to the topic please.

[loramin]

Got it: you recommend doing the thing you don't recommend doing.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Got it: you recommend doing the thing you don't recommend doing.

I don't know why you think doubling down on reading my posts incorrectly accomplishes any of your goals. It doesn't make you look good, it doesn't help OP, it doesn't discredit me or make me look bad. Other people know how to read better than you do.

It's probably better to just farm the plat. I wouldn't advise someone to farm Goblin Ring unless they prefer farming their own items over efficiency.

You missed the second half of the sentence, where I said it's fine if they prefer to farm their own items. Often times farming a rare item like Goblin Ring is not as efficient as farming the plat for it.

There is a reason why an item campable by a level 15 is still 5k in 2025. It's a rare item. You may not get it at all when you try to camp it. Plat farming is often more consistent, and can be done while leveling. Killing guards for example gives you XP and Plat consistently.

[loramin]

Your underlying assumption is that it's less efficient to farm the ring yourself as a low-level character. This is a false assumption.

Again, you can get XP anywhere: there are literally dozens of zones a low level Druid can XP in ... but only one of them has an NPC who drops the Goblin Ghazughi Ring. Why XP anywhere else (where you have zero chance of getting the ring), when you can get XP AND a chance at the ring?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your underlying assumption is that it's less efficient to farm the ring yourself as a low-level character. This is a false assumption.

Again, you can get XP anywhere: there are literally dozens of zones a low level Druid can XP in ... but only one of them has an NPC who drops the Goblin Ghazughi Ring. Why XP anywhere else (where you have zero chance of getting the ring), when you can get XP AND a chance at the ring?

Thank you for admitting you read my post wrong, which is why you are now switching to the substance of my post.

It was less efficient for Jimjam, he didn't get a ring:

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My mage did that camp from like 12 to 24 and saw plenty of couriers but no ring. Seeing bloodstone rings in inventories gives me ptsd.

If Jimjam was camping mobs that had better plat/money item drops while gaining XP, he'd have some plat to work with by level 24. Intsead he had no ring and no plat. This is very basic stuff if you've played this game. If the Ring was easy to get, it would be like 500 plat.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thank you for admitting you read my post wrong, which is why you are now switching to the substance of my post.

The fundamental problem with your posts is that you write nonsense like this to win points with the imaginary audience in your head ... and then fail miserably at communicating with the actual humans in the thread.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The fundamental problem with your posts is that you write nonsense like this to win points with the imaginary audience in your head ... and then fail miserably at communicating with the actual humans in the thread.

No. The problem is you think that is what I am doing, and it clouds your judgement when you read my posts.

I am sorry that there is a boogyman version of DSM that lives rent free in your head.

You should learn to simply read my posts as-is, instead of spamming threads with your own delusions of what you imagine I am saying.

Remember that you are the one who started attacking me in this thread:

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wow, I haven't seen a "DSM says something completely wrong, with total confidence" hot take in a while.

This is the first thing you said to me in this thread. You attacked me first, and have generally been snarky to me in your subsequent posts.

I never understood why people think it is fine to attack others, but absolutely cannot handle it when the other person defends themselves. They seem shocked that the person they attacked did not simply roll over and take it.

If you don't want people to defend themselves against your attacks, don't attack people. It's quite simple. Please stop spamming the thread.