Do you believe in fatalism or free will?

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Given that psychiatry is an infantile and ineffective science I guarantee this would be more effective than like 80% of psych wards out there

I've been doing a lot of reading recently on the social, cultural and political forces which influence psychiatric diagnosis (and whether psychiatric diagnosis is even useful). Super interesting and a lot of good points raised, although I do find some of the arguments against it either aren't well formulated or well expressed (or can equally be applied to alternatives or general medical / scientific practice).

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've been doing a lot of reading recently on the social, cultural and political forces which influence psychiatric diagnosis (and whether psychiatric diagnosis is even useful). Super interesting and a lot of good points raised, although I do find some of the arguments against it either aren't well formulated or well expressed (or can equally be applied to alternatives or general medical / scientific practice).

I’ve never been a big fan of psychiatry. I will never stop suggesting to clients to try counseling and cognitive/behavioral changes first because there are no side effects to these. I will never stop reminding parents that we still to this day don’t completely understand the complete effects of mental health meds on a child’s developing brain

However

It also to some degree depends on the category. Antipsychotics when used on-label can work amazingly well and keep someone with a severe psychotic disorder stable and able to function and even maintain careers/relationships. Whereas without the meds the person would either be actively hallucinating and delusional all day….or dead

Benzos also work amazingly well for their intended function to temporarily tranquilize the nervous system. Assuming they are used responsibility and rarely

Antidepressants and mood stabilizer’s benefits are far more opaque. Some mood stabilizers work well for someone with a bi-polar diagnosis, but mood stabilizers and other medical meds like seizure meds or beta blockers are sometimes used to treat various other things

Stimulants to control childhood and adult ADHD also don’t seem to be as sure of a science. Stimulants of all meds have had some of the most disastrous widespread problems during the adderall and Ritalin days

[Ekco]

Originally Posted by NopeNopeNopeNope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I’ve never been a big fan of psychiatry. I will never stop suggesting to clients to try counseling and cognitive/behavioral changes first because there are no side effects to these. I will never stop reminding parents that we still to this day don’t completely understand the complete effects of mental health meds on a child’s developing brain

However

It also to some degree depends on the category. Antipsychotics when used on-label can work amazingly well and keep someone with a severe psychotic disorder stable and able to function and even maintain careers/relationships. Whereas without the meds the person would either be actively hallucinating and delusional all day….or dead

Benzos also work amazingly well for their intended function to temporarily tranquilize the nervous system. Assuming they are used responsibility and rarely

Antidepressants and mood stabilizer’s benefits are far more opaque. Some mood stabilizers work well for someone with a bi-polar diagnosis, but mood stabilizers and other medical meds like seizure meds or beta blockers are sometimes used to treat various other things

Stimulants to control childhood and adult ADHD also don’t seem to be as sure of a science. Stimulants of all meds have had some of the most disastrous widespread problems during the adderall and Ritalin days

i got sent to rehab as a minor which is a whole other crazy story but in rehab one of the other kids told me to tell the doc i was on everything so i'd get fun meds, was a interesting 2 months and only time I've taken them

craziest drug ive ever taken i think is one i was prescribed while there, was one of those serotonin ones but i forgot the name, was a big tablet that dissolves under your tongue and tastes like oranges? lol.

insanely crazy dreams, i basically tripped balls for 60 days straight and my mom's insurance paid for it.

[atomicpaul]

the xanax the docs used to prescribe me were orange-flavored and dissolved under the tongue. but i'd wager there's more than one drug that does that.

when i was in rehab there was some dude who had fried his brain on some kind of megadose of a hallucinogen, they had to give him thorazine to get him to stop running around screaming or cornering women and being creepy. they had shot versions and dissolving tablets for him.

[shovelquest]

Now they don’t give drugs like Xanax because all the poors that get free healthcare have just been using it to get addicted to drugs.

[SorenVC]

Someone on drugs.com said that Olanzapine is the same as Xanax, just a sedative.

https://www.drugs.com/comments/olanzapine/

This is the only website on the internet where people can give reviews to their medication.

I'm not a fan of psych meds but I am addicted to Olanzapine and have to take them for life. I tried to quit it last time went 10 days without sleep, went to the doctor and cried really hard and he sent me to a mental hospital for the second time in my life, and here I am, back with 10 miligrams of Olanzapine.

[atomicpaul]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Now they don’t give drugs like Xanax because all the poors that get free healthcare have just been using it to get addicted to drugs.

p sure it started with alcohol for most people, but i know you despise the poor or you wouldn't be maga

[Ciderpress]

Originally Posted by atomicpaul [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

p sure it started with alcohol for most people, but i know you despise the poor or you wouldn't be maga

I suppose you think dems are the ones who really care about "the poor".

They don't; they just hate the rich out of sheer envy. Big difference.

Doesn't matter how or why you became rich, dems will hate you and take as much of your money as they can. That's not even remotely a morally coherent worldview.

Oh and the cherry on top is that they're also insanely rich themselves. I always get a tickle out of millionaires complaining about billionaires like looool.

[atomicpaul]

lmao dems don't care about the poor either, but nice try. capitalism requires poor people to exploit, democrats are capitalists. you have more in common with them than i do.

every billionaire is a policy failure

[Ekco]

commies have a bad track record at middle and upper management, as a peasant they frighten me equally