How do you justify not paying for EverQuest?

[shovelquest]

In this dimension darkpaw is in charge.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Ekco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

is cd288 a chatbot i forget. either way, here's my chatbot's response.

The notion of Daybreak entering into a formal contract with an emulator project is perplexing. Wouldn't a more likely scenario be an informal, tacit understanding? Daybreak, perhaps, sought to appease their existing player base (many of whom likely utilized emulators) to avoid alienating potential EverQuest Next customers. This 'inaction' over several years, given the inevitable cycle of IP ownership changes in the gaming industry, raises questions. Why would any company intentionally diminish the value of an asset they knew they might eventually sell by formally aligning with an emulator project?

Yes definitely a chat bot bruh.

I can't speak for why Daybreak did it. Only they and maybe Rogean/Nilbog know why. However, if I had to guess, they probably did some math, realized that the P99 player base isn't costing them a lot of money (some play on TLPs already so you don't lose money on those people, some would never play TLP anyway, and some would never touch a TLP for the first time or ever again if you sued P99 and killed it). So they probably figured, given the comparatively small monetary hit they are taking, the PR value of agreeing to let P99 operate was better than trying to shut it down (honestly, it probably would've cost them more in filings and legal fees to shut P99 down if Rogean/Nilbog tried to resist than they would make in a year from a portion of the tiny player base switching to TLPs).

As far as subsequent IP owners, their hands are tied by the legal agreement. Simple answer there.

[Trexller]

why would the russian oligarch who currently owns the EQ IP care what we do with eq emulators when their only interest is to wring the last drops of profitability from whoever still plays the live game?

daybreak employee's glassdoor reviews tell you all you need to know, they prioritize monetization over bug fixes and actually fun new content

they don't even think about EQEMU, not even a passing thought.

[Duik]

Everquest next?
Chatbot needs more food matey.

[Ekco]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

they prioritize monetization over bug fixes and actually fun new content

that's the only business model left for live and other zombie mmos, and running progression servers.

they used to just shut the servers down when people stopped playing a game then someone realized Whales exist and love the cash shops in games

i logged on live this week and didn't know wtf to do with my hotbars because my live character is level 120 with 40,000 AAs, 39,000 of them i got instantly when i bought some expansions and a month of game time 2 years ago when they released Kunark/Velious/Luclin 3.0 Reboot expansions

they can't even be fucking bothered to do new/returning player onboarding right

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes definitely a chat bot bruh.
their hands are tied by the legal agreement. Simple answer there.

You're in a desert walking along in the sand when all of the sudden you look down and you see a tortoise, cd288, it's crawling toward you

[shovelquest]

Lets just hope they dont start realizing nobody plays on their classic TLP servers (tormax) because they have p99.

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[Ciderpress]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lets just hope they dont start realizing nobody plays on their classic TLP servers (tormax) because they have p99.

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Honestly I don't think p99 rips many players from live at all, because TLPs continue forward into all the content that people who play here ostensibly don't like.

If anything p99 addicts who are really hardcore about it will actually roll on new live TLPs to compete during the pre-luclin content then just come back to p99.

[shovelquest]

Yeah by no means would live compare in a side by side experience, but tormax was intended to be a classic server. And if there were no EMU's you know we'd all have been on it.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Ciderpress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Honestly I don't think p99 rips many players from live at all, because TLPs continue forward into all the content that people who play here ostensibly don't like.

If anything p99 addicts who are really hardcore about it will actually roll on new live TLPs to compete during the pre-luclin content then just come back to p99.

Yup. There are some P99 players who play TLP, so it's not even that 100% of our player base causes the IP holder to lose TLP money.

[Bisonzabi]

The business model of $15 a month is archaic and the amount of things to preoccupy your spare time compared to 99-2003 when EQ was at its peak has drastically increased, especially for PC gaming, which is so far beyond in scope of what it was in the 2000's. If you went through an old brick and mortar catalogue for PC games back then, you'd get maybe around 25-50 games advertised, some of which were years old at that point. Compare that to how colossal Steam's library has gotten since 2003-2007 and how many people with 100+ backlogged games to divest their time into.

Originally Posted by Ekco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

that's the only business model left for live and other zombie mmos, and running progression servers.

they used to just shut the servers down when people stopped playing a game then someone realized Whales exist and love the cash shops in games

Exactly this, it's a necessary evil. The only reason many old MMO's are still up is due to MMO's converting into f2p microtransaction shops for the whales. When DBG was sold off once again a few years ago, they stated in their financial reports that EQ2 only had 20,000 remaining subscribers (good chunk is probably boxers). That use to be a death sentence for any MMO back in the pre-f2p era.