New Angry Goblin Agreement

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Good luck bribing them to ignore the server's wishes and change it to how you think it should work [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well right now it only serves the people who have 7 hours to stare at a screen.

In terms of gameplay that's beyond retarded.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Good luck bribing them to ignore the server's wishes and change it to how you think it should work [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't give a shit how it should work or not. Just saying that this whole pompous stance you have about how some player agreement you were a part of can't be changed without all players agreeing is untrue. This has happened in the past on P99...if there's a decent number of complaints about something, the staff have taken a look at it even if there's also a decent number of people who like it the way it is.

Ironically, it's actually the reverse of your stance: In order to 100% guarantee the staff would never change a player agreement, essentially 100% of the players need to still be in favor of the agreement.

[WarpathEQ]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ironically, it's actually the reverse of your stance: In order to 100% guarantee the staff would never change a player agreement, essentially 100% of the players need to still be in favor of the agreement.

Not really true. There was a unanimous thumbs down from the server regarding changing the level requirement for scout from 55 to 46 and yet Blistig randomly decided to change it anyway despite not 1 single person voting in favor of it.

The best part is it was so poorly documented that I was going after people under 55 and under the belief that someone did something shady to change the wiki to sneak in their vox bots. It took a great deal of time using discord searches to find the 1 obscure post Blistig made referencing the change to confirm it was a real and valid change that happened (and that there was 0 approval from the server for it).

[cd288]

Originally Posted by WarpathEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not really true. There was a unanimous thumbs down from the server regarding changing the level requirement for scout from 55 to 46 and yet Blistig randomly decided to change it anyway despite not 1 single person voting in favor of it.

The best part is it was so poorly documented that I was going after people under 55 and under the belief that someone did something shady to change the wiki to sneak in their vox bots. It took a great deal of time using discord searches to find the 1 obscure post Blistig made referencing the change to confirm it was a real and valid change that happened (and that there was 0 approval from the server for it).

Interesting. So it's even more towards the overall point I was making, which is that the staff don't necessarily care about player agreements at all if the staff doesn't like the agreement.

Originally Posted by WarpathEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What would really bring the P99 forums full circle is DSM ignoring Loramin and then them both starting a thread that is nothing but them replying to each other with ignore list messages.

Then the rest of the threads would actually be about the topic in the subject line again. Something we've been missing out on for years.

Just make a forum rule that you can't take threads down winding, pointless, and off topic or semi-off topic discussions via obtuse debates. Then Loramin would have half the comments on the forum that he has.

[loramin]

My stance has never been "the staff is powerless": you are arguing with a straw man of your own creation.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My stance has never been "the staff is powerless": you are arguing with a straw man of your own creation.

"Changing a player agreement "just" requires convincing everyone who shows up to roll that the new policy is best ... and then you have to keep doing it for X? weeks, at which point the staff will enforce it."

[loramin]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"Changing a player agreement "just" requires convincing everyone who shows up to roll that the new policy is best ... and then you have to keep doing it for X? weeks, at which point the staff will enforce it."

As a player, everything you quoted is 100% true ... and maybe you missed the context but ... this is a forum of players talking to players.

Of course the staff can change anything they want! But if you were a normal human reading this thread like a normal person, that would just be assumed ... not a reason to attack another player (for speaking the truth).

[cd288]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As a player, everything you quoted is 100% true ... and maybe you missed the context but ... this is a forum of players talking to players.

Of course the staff can change anything they want! But if you were a normal human reading this thread like a normal person, that would just be assumed ... not a reason to attack another player (for speaking the truth).

Ok thanks for confirming that you don't need to convince all the other players, some players just need to convince the staff

[Swish]

Make it a pvp zone.

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[hatterene]

Disgusting camp I stopped doing it