Boxing

[Malrubius]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Uh, yeah, at like level 50.

Fixed it for ya [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ehh, there are good players and bad players at all levels. In groups and out of them. We all know it.

All of these players, solo and group alike, are what make EQ...EQ.

[Nikon]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't like to group. You find plenty of bad players in groups.

Haynar

To this I ask, why play an MMO? Why not play the newest Final Fantasy or some other single-player RPG where the only bad player you have to worry about is yourself? I thought these games were designed around the concept that you immerse yourself in a world filled with other player characters with which to interact and establish cooperative efforts to level and obtain items. And often times "bad players" lack experience and would benefit from a little constructive criticism instead of bashing.

And yes, boxing happens on this server I'm sure. I've seen a few suspicious duo's myself even and I'm not out there hunting for it, but you can bet there would be a lot more if it was "legal". People will always find a way around the rules if there is a will.

Just my 2 cp.

[Malrubius]

Originally Posted by Nikon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To this I ask, why play an MMO? Why not play the newest Final Fantasy or some other single-player RPG where the only bad player you have to worry about is yourself? I thought these games were designed around the concept that you immerse yourself in a world filled with other player characters with which to interact and establish cooperative efforts to level and obtain items.

The above part of your post could easily be turned around. For example..."If you want to group with just a small handful of players, why are you playing EQ?" Why not play Diablo II or something similar with your group?

It sounds like you are saying here that - if you want to have lots of social interaction in EQ, you need to group. That's not just incorrect - it could even be argued that it is backwards.

I find I have much more time to interact with...well, everybody (except my group)....when I am not in a group.


I should make it clear that I am NOT saying grouping is bad. I personally love it. I'm just saying that your suggestion (that those who do not group are either not social, or, not properly enjoying the social aspect of EQ) is misled.

[Nikon]

Originally Posted by Malrubius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It sounds like you are saying here that - if you want to have lots of social interaction in EQ, you need to group. That's not just incorrect - it could even be argued that it is backwards.

I don't want to derail this thread so this will be short. That was not my intended meaning and it was indeed a legitimate question to the poster. The game is full of "bad players" in guilds, in groups, /ooc, etc... I was interested to see if the player avoids these other aspects of the game as well. IMO, boxing doesn't promote an MMO attitude of working with other RL players to accomplish goals and being social.

[Zithax]

I think it should be 1boxing, and 2boxing allowed with donation.\

Originally Posted by redghosthunter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If ya cant find a group its cause ya a bad player.

this is wrong.

[Lumathix]

Originally Posted by Zithax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think it should be 1boxing, and 2boxing allowed with donation.\



this is wrong.

No.

[Tallenn]

I think the point was already made that the no boxing rule just stops honest people from boxing. That's the way it ALWAYS is whenever you ban anything- in real life, just as in EQ. It never stops the dishonest or the criminals from doing it. I wonder how many exemptions there actually are on the server now. I'm guessing quite a few. I'm also guessing that almost every one of them has boxed- you can't make me believe that EVERY time both people with an IP exemption log in, there are two actual people behind those toons. Sure, most may only do it rarely, (or it may be rampant, I honestly don't know), but don't try to tell me it's not happening.

All you people that comment about how you're so happy there's no boxing allowed here, and would leave if it were allowed are just fooling yourselves. There IS boxing here, and I'm betting quite a bit of it. You can take comfort in the fact that it's against the rules, but that don't change the fact that it's happening- probably a LOT.

[fabric9]

It's not like most boxers would bring their boxes into the groups and take up slots for others. I know I rarely played more than one character when grouped, but it was nice to be able to 2, 3 or even 4box as necessary when there simply weren't people you knew around to play with. I dislike playing with people I don't know (or that my friends don't know), but maybe I'm weird that way.

It's a different game though. Later on in EQ, the game got alot more complex, and bringing your box to some highend one-group content just wasn't that viable. 3boxing was pretty much out of the question. You had to be insanely good to manage slowing, cc'ing, tanking and healing all at once. At this point, it's pretty much autoattack and wait. And that's pretty boring, no offense.

I have no doubt there are lots of people that have thought the same as me and hence why you have a high population of players that don't like boxing on the server. A poll taken on the server after the rule has been enforced for X amount of time will of course lean in the favor of the non-boxers, since the boxers aren't around anymore.

I didn't post to make you rethink your rules. I'm just saying I'm sad it is this way, and I (and my friend) won't be playing because it is. I hope you guys have fun though. Ciao.

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by fabric9 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A poll taken on the server after the rule has been enforced for X amount of time will of course lean in the favor of the non-boxers, since the boxers aren't around anymore.

I have to say I disagree with your logic. It's in my opinion that no one knew wtf they were talking about prior to the server launching, and only after X amount of time would they have been afforded the time and experience to offer a REAL opinion.

The original boxing poll on the beta forums had 31 votes, btw. 31... on an anonymous internet poll.

I think its safe to say we now have a more accurate gauge of opinion.

Originally Posted by fabric9 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm just saying I'm sad it is this way, and I (and my friend) won't be playing because it is. I hope you guys have fun though. Ciao.

If you can *only* have fun playing more than 1 character at a time, I can't offer this to you. Good luck.

[Sinlea]

No boxing please, but do away with the 3 minute thing between switching accounts.