How realistic is casual raiding?

[cd288]

If you really want to be fair then certain people on the raid should get more DKP than others like per hour/kill etc.

Most of classic EQ raiding is everyone standing around while a select few individuals execute pull strategies and things to make sure the raid goes smoothly. If anything those people should get first dibs on drops and if they don't want it then just /random for all the warm bodies.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you really want to be fair then certain people on the raid should get more DKP than others like per hour/kill etc.

Most of classic EQ raiding is everyone standing around while a select few individuals execute pull strategies and things to make sure the raid goes smoothly. If anything those people should get first dibs on drops and if they don't want it then just /random for all the warm bodies.

That is an interesting idea. However, with the clickie nerfs, pushing mob nerf, and rooted dragons, you need warm bodies now more than ever. Any guild who doesn't reward the warm bodies is going to end up not having the numbers for kills that need the zerg.

I would predict that if one of the two big guilds did this, that big guild would just bleed players to the other big guild. All big guilds would need to agree to use such a system simultanously. I don't think that will happen.

[Bodybagger]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is an interesting idea. However, with the clickie nerfs, pushing mob nerf, and rooted dragons, you need warm bodies now more than ever. Any guild who doesn't reward the warm bodies is going to end up not having the numbers for kills that need the zerg.

I would predict that if one of the two big guilds did this, that big guild would just bleed players to the other big guild. All big guilds would need to agree to use such a system simultaneously. I don't think that will happen.

He's right you know... just look at what happened to <Safe Space>, bumped down to draco and 2 golems only on a quake [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I guess the flip side is people can't DKP dump and run if they got no loot to bid on #bigbrain guess they're lucky kingdom needs warm bodies too [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Ripqozko]

DSM bout to shit up this thread since he said he won't post in other, Inc 300 pages. Inb4 just trying to prove a point and everyone is a troll.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

DSM bout to shit up this thread since he said he won't post in other, Inc 300 pages. Inb4 just trying to prove a point and everyone is a troll.

Please stop turning threads into RnF threads with your trolling. You have embarassed yourself enough.

I will not be responding to another troll post of yours here.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please stop turning threads into RnF threads with your trolling. You have embarassed yourself enough.

I will not be responding to another troll post of yours here.

Called it

[Kich867]

I mean that's also not that fair of a system to begin with...I think this should be kind of obvious. Only a select few are selected to perform the duties you're holding to a higher regard. There's no way the rest of the guild could participate in that if they wanted to, due to the restriction of how many people can actually be involved in those jobs.

You could show up every raid, on time, maybe early, bring all your required items, never miss a beat in what you're supposed to do, always be there contributing, and not receive this preferential treatment, not because you aren't a good player, but because you didn't pick a class that does that or someone else is already doing it?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Kich867 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean that's also not that fair of a system to begin with...I think this should be kind of obvious. Only a select few are selected to perform the duties you're holding to a higher regard. There's no way the rest of the guild could participate in that if they wanted to, due to the restriction of how many people can actually be involved in those jobs.

You could show up every raid, on time, maybe early, bring all your required items, never miss a beat in what you're supposed to do, always be there contributing, and not receive this preferential treatment, not because you aren't a good player, but because you didn't pick a class that does that or someone else is already doing it?

Agreed. It's closer to a loot council at that point, which also turns out poorly.

That's why I am confident any guild who tries to implement such a system is just going to lose it's warm bodies, which are still necessary. Now more than ever due to the clickie nerfs, push interrupt nerf, and rooted dragons.

[cyxthryth]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Agreed. It's closer to a loot council at that point, which also turns out poorly.

That's why I am confident any guild who tries to implement such a system is just going to lose it's warm bodies, which are still necessary. Now more than ever due to the clickie nerfs, push interrupt nerf, and rooted dragons.

Agreed.

[PlsNoBan]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Agreed. It's closer to a loot council at that point, which also turns out poorly.

That's why I am confident any guild who tries to implement such a system is just going to lose it's warm bodies, which are still necessary. Now more than ever due to the clickie nerfs, push interrupt nerf, and rooted dragons.

I also agree with DSM!

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