Good fix Nilbog, but how about making this playable now?

[Hyjalx]

Poopsocking as we know it today didn't exist because there were scheduled patches every week. And yes, guilds DID leapfrog each other. By 6-7pm, there was 150 people in Aary pit on patch day.

Club Fu and Ring of Valor had to be separated many times and use to race to pull Aary and the lairs of Feshlak, Dagarn, Kriezenn and Kriezenn. So yes you did have to worry about getting leapfrogged, and nobody was waiting for dragons to pop. Variance didn't exist.

North dragons should stay in north, just like in classic. I am not arguing against that. But unrooting the dragons like it was on live decreases the need to have 50 extra warm bodies charge into guards and other drakes + the dragon all at the same time.

What we have now is just a different game, and is the entire reason why nobody will be seeing a Vulak anytime this decade unless a suspension happens. It caters to one massive zerg force and nobody else.

[Hyjalx]

It was never an exploit Loramin. No idea what you are talking about. Just because the staff here say it is, doesn't mean that's how it was.

So you want me to prove against 2 basic rules that never existed? ...

[Baler]

Originally Posted by Hyjalx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just because the staff here say it is, doesn't mean that's how it was.

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[loramin]

Originally Posted by Hyjalx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It was never an exploit Loramin.

So Verant didn't root the dragons to prevent it on Live? C'mon, don't be disingenuous.

Originally Posted by remen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What is your response to 150+ person raids to kill 1 dragon not being classic? How would you fix this to restore a more classic feel to the server?

My response is that I don't know everything and don't claim to. Look, calling out an obvious unclassic exploit is shooting fish in a barrell: fixing a system to be better takes smart people with knowledge of that system ... and as I've freely admitted, I don't know the current raid scene.

But I do know this for sure: if you say "hey staff, ignore the upper left corner", it won't work. You will never make the server better doing that. But if you say, "hey staff, if you made ___ change it would make this place more classic" ... and you actually build consensus for that idea ... why wouldn't the staff adopt it?

[matticas]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...But if you say, "hey staff, if you made ___ change it would make this place more classic" ... and you actually build consensus for that idea ... why wouldn't the staff adopt it?

Ok, worth a shot: "hey staff, if you made the unrooted dragons change it would make this place more classic. There is plenty of consensus for that idea, so why wouldn't you adopt it?"

Did I do it right?

[loramin]

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Ok, worth a shot: "hey staff, if you made the unrooted dragons change it would make this place more classic. There is plenty of consensus for that idea, so why wouldn't you adopt it?"

Did I do it right?

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[kaizersoze]

Originally Posted by matticas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok, worth a shot: "hey staff, if you made the unrooted dragons change it would make this place more classic. There is plenty of consensus for that idea, so why wouldn't you adopt it?"

Did I do it right?

Renamed Guild cant raid right now anyway (and probably until the 25th because we all know Monrezz and playbook showed people how to do the model deletes and who knows how many RNG were caught in this lets be reals) Unrooted dragons do not effect you.

[Hyjalx]

Dragons were going to zone in and zone out on Bristlebane all of Velious and even into Luclin. Not once did Shiften ban or suspend us for doing it. I mean, the evidence is in the pudding.... look how close 5-6 dragons are to their respective zone in's and zone outs.

Even if you didn't play during this era, its obvious.

[Baler]

Submit a bug report with all the evidence that's in said pudding.

Q18: Where can I deposit my tears?
A: As always, your tears and crying ... are important to us; for without you we couldn't possibly run things around here.

[Hyjalx]

No offense Baler, but did you watch your brother play during this era too?

And that is partly the issue. A lot of folks commenting were still learning how to wipe their own behinds during this era and not actually in raiding guilds and clearing Velious and ToV....

Really sad that the game is getting lost in its age.