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Old 04-07-2020, 06:13 PM
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Wiki is mostly classic; we had Caster's Realm and Allakhazam.

But I'll make it very, very straight for you. Did players in 1999 ...
  • wait their turn to get pixels?
  • rely on multiple attempts over time (ie. patience and luck) to get pixels?
  • give certain pixels over to certain guilds, which locked them down 24/7?
  • click AFK checks all day long, and then either not sleep or pass their account over to someone else to get pixels?

Should be an easy question to answer if you know classic EQ.
Hogwash! it's compiled all in one spot and there are little to any guesses, its fact for the most part.

Lists are not classic outside of a group having one for replacement members. That was not GM enforced or any coding done to add anything to the game. You kept a list with a pen and paper because we were not all morons yet that can't tie our shoes or wipe our own asses.
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Old 04-07-2020, 06:14 PM
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You're going to great lengths to avoid answering the question (even after I did what you asked and presented it "straight"). I think that's making my argument stronger honestly.
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Old 04-07-2020, 06:15 PM
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oh my fucking word.. Loramin the players are not classic. Your wiki is not classic either.. I can't answer you straight because you are not asking straight questions.
Interesting fact, that actually falls into red herring territory, like the demand for 100% absolute certainty.

One time someone was telling me how unnatural a shoe was for running and I was like, then run barefoot without shoes. Don't lift with a barbell, don't be under a roof, etc etc.

You can't actually have classic. It's impossible, and everyone knows it.

The closest thing you can get is to give this server we're playing to a group of people who have never played the game in the first place, with minimal internet access or a wiki that you burn to the ground, and ban anyone who has played before. Then you have a classic server for a bunch of folks who its all new for!

Using the fact that we can't have absolute classic though would just be considered a red herring in a discussion anymore.
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Old 04-07-2020, 06:17 PM
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Interesting fact, that actually falls into red herring territory, like the demand for 100% absolute certainty.

One time someone was telling me how unnatural a shoe was for running and I was like, then run barefoot without shoes. Don't lift with a barbell, don't be under a roof, etc etc.

You can't actually have classic. It's impossible, and everyone knows it.

The closest thing you can get is to give this server we're playing to a group of people who have never played the game in the first place, with minimal internet access or a wiki that you burn to the ground, and ban anyone who has played before. Then you have a classic server for a bunch of folks who its all new for!
100% agree! We can't go back to 1999, but that doesn't mean we can't aim for "most classic EQ possible in 2020".
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Old 04-07-2020, 06:24 PM
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The argument that players are not classic is not so any or further unclassic things can be added. Its acknowledgement that both the old players who know everything and can bend the game or will take things to the higher extreme because what it takes is known and people naturally one-up that.

And that new players often come in with WoW as their only reference point.

The list, iirc, was put in because people wanted the legacy items and knew the big guilds would sit on them to control them which is classic EQ but not in the same sense of the original game because no one knew they would be worth anything later.

Blue also had a small amount of players when the manastone still dropped so there was less on the server and demanded a high price. Then in turn led everyone to want one for green, they were worried they couldn't get one so an unclassic list was put in for unclassic reasons for unclassic players doing something unclassic because they are not classic (see above)

Edit: I came in fighting due to reading some of the posts. Angry that I was, I figured this was well known by now to some of you posters who, while you might not post everyday, have been here for sometime and would already know that. Confusion further increased.
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Old 04-07-2020, 08:28 PM
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Unemployeds winning eq? Oh no you didn't
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Old 04-07-2020, 08:32 PM
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Unemployed players have been winning EQ since 1999. It's classic.
I would counter though that in order to be unemployed one must;

1) Not be gainfully employed
2) be actively looking for employment

Most neck beards going to get hung up on #2.
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Old 04-07-2020, 08:41 PM
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KILL THE WIKI ITS TOXIC
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Old 04-07-2020, 09:25 PM
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I still go to work mon-fri and have wanted a DE mask on a druid since 99. I don't think it is going to happen =(
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Old 04-07-2020, 09:38 PM
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I still go to work mon-fri and have wanted a DE mask on a druid since 99. I don't think it is going to happen =(
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tough break.

there were people for years upon years that wanted Warder loot, as Mead would say.. "You're welcome"

As a counter flame some top guild members would say "Sorry you didn't get warder loot"

Did Loramin ever campaign for the Sleeper? (honest I don't know)

This is the game, this is the hook that keeps us here unlike other pleasure factories. And at least in my case it was seeing parts of the game I never did in classic, just because I played didn't mean anything. Note: That last sentence is really just a response to an argument I had years ago on one of the social media sites when I was going back and forth with a guy talking about MMORPGs, he was all about the pleasure cruise. I guess that makes me a digital sadist/masochist..oh well, that seems more adult than a console controller twerp going on about his xbox achievements and match-making rank.
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