Was Having Two Servers More Fun Than One?

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

^

It's not even as bad as that though really. I regularly find cool little exp spots for my solo wiz, get groups on my rogue (even in spots like uguk that is more crowded), find open things to camp to sell for plat on my 50 sham. No, I can't log in at 9 pm any day of the week and expect to find freeti or frenzy open. No, I haven't killed vox or naggy.

But so what? Classic EQ is about a hell of a lot more than that. The only not classic thing in this whole debate is the people who don't appreciate this, imo.

Agreed. It's actually kind of interesting because it sort of shows how the modern MMO "I want it and I want it now" mentality has seeped into the game

[astuce999]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No one is trying to drive the server into the ground lol, quit being so dramatic. The point is that complaining the server is too crowded because you can't go to the camps that drop some of the more valuable items and easily camp them whenever you want isn't a legitimate complaint.

If you were to say something along the lines of "the server is so freaking crowded that I'm in South Karana and I can barely find any mobs to kill whatsoever" then that would be a more valid argument.

But essentially saying things like "omg this item that's like BIS for my class is frequently camped and I can't easily get it without waiting my turn" or "Omg HHK, Guk, CB, and Unrest are always so crowded that I have to wait for groups and I want to be able to play in the highest ZEM zones possible and not go anywhere else for EXP" aren't really legitimate arguments for why the server's population is too high lol

Not even close. Lots of people have explained what Teal was like, even in this thread, and as usual, you and all your kind reduce it to a pixel-lust entitlement of some kind. You are projecting your values and believing it's our motives. We're not min-maxers. We just wanted to enjoy the content, relive some old memories, and we had that on Teal. I didn't even try once to get some sort of BiS or legacy item, and after the first week of Teal I didn't zone in any of the high ZEM zones you mentioned.

But again, like a lot of people in the thread have mentioned, I made a ton of new friends, found some old friends, and had so much fun on this amazing re-creation of classic eq. I donated a ton of cash to the project. And then Teal was gone, and green fucking sucks.

cheers,

Astuce

[LegendZapp]

Merge was an ill-conceived decision and it's really made the server less fun to play on. It's much harder to find groups or cash camps, and there was no problem finding groups before. Lists are borderline impossible to do solo now. It was just a terrible decision. What's done is done and we have to live with it, but it doesn't mean it was anything except an awful call by staff.

[Silverfalcon]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My point was more .... and it wasn't just for you ... this place is big on arguing. As others have pointed out, we've already got plenty of threads full of merger-related arguments.

If this thread is "about" anything, it's about listening to your fellow players, trying to understand them and what's fun (or not) for them, and how something like two servers vs. one impacts that. It's not about convincing anyone else that your way of fun is right.

Or at least that's what I see the thread being about, and I've loved when people have responded genuinely and honestly (on either "side") about their fun, instead of getting bent out of shape over someone else's.

I get that what individuals think is fun is up to each individual. As I said I just get tired of people saying...it was so much worse population in actual classic.

What was fun for me was having the ability to more less do the things I wanted to do without having to worry about: All your camps belong to 50s syndrome going on now in green. At least that is how it feels to me now since the merge.

[Silverfalcon]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Agreed. It's actually kind of interesting because it sort of shows how the modern MMO "I want it and I want it now" mentality has seeped into the game

No what it means is very simple: I have limited time to play and I'd like to actually enjoy the game content. I don't want to run around for over half the time I have to play in an effort to find some 3rd rate backwater zone and pretend to be happy about it. I'm about as old school as they come. I was playing LoK before UO or EQ ever came out so don't give me this crap about the modern MMO mentality.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Silverfalcon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No what it means is very simple: I have limited time to play and I'd like to actually enjoy the game content. I don't want to run around for over half the time I have to play in an effort to find some 3rd rate backwater zone and pretend to be happy about it. I'm about as old school as they come. I was playing LoK before UO or EQ ever came out so don't give me this crap about the modern MMO mentality.

More and more people wanting to enjoy the game on their terms in limited playtime is what led to modern MMOs, their instancing and difficulty tiers and group matching cross realms and balance, etc.

P99 wasn't made for someone wanting that stuff. Adjust your expectations or find a different game/emu server.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by astuce999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not even close. Lots of people have explained what Teal was like, even in this thread, and as usual, you and all your kind reduce it to a pixel-lust entitlement of some kind. You are projecting your values and believing it's our motives. We're not min-maxers. We just wanted to enjoy the content, relive some old memories, and we had that on Teal. I didn't even try once to get some sort of BiS or legacy item, and after the first week of Teal I didn't zone in any of the high ZEM zones you mentioned.

But again, like a lot of people in the thread have mentioned, I made a ton of new friends, found some old friends, and had so much fun on this amazing re-creation of classic eq. I donated a ton of cash to the project. And then Teal was gone, and green fucking sucks.

cheers,

Astuce

So then what could your issues possibly be with the merge? If you’re not going after bis items or trying to play in the very popular high ZEM zones then there’s literally no issue. None of the other zones are over crowded and I challenge you to find one that is. I’ve spent the last few levels in the Karanas and have had zero issues and have barely seen a soul except when I go out of my way to try and set up a duo or trio. Before that I was in Oasis and didn’t have a single issue either.

You say “muh merge is bad” yet can’t articulate why

[shovelquest]

Voted 1 because I like pain

[Silverfalcon]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

More and more people wanting to enjoy the game on their terms in limited playtime is what led to modern MMOs, their instancing and difficulty tiers and group matching cross realms and balance, etc.

P99 wasn't made for someone wanting that stuff. Adjust your expectations or find a different game/emu server.

You know it's pretty elitist of you to say such things. Hey if you don't play the game the way I think it should be played hit the road and get out of here. Why is it such a bad thing to you or anyone else if there was Teal and Green instead of a merged Green? Why is that such a threat to you? Why do you think it is bad that people actually enjoy playing the game on their terms versus your dictatorial viewpoints on how the game should be played?

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Silverfalcon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know it's pretty elitist of you to say such things. Hey if you don't play the game the way I think it should be played hit the road and get out of here. Why is it such a bad thing to you or anyone else if there was Teal and Green instead of a merged Green? Why is that such a threat to you? Why do you think it is bad that people actually enjoy playing the game on their terms versus your dictatorial viewpoints on how the game should be played?

You just don't get it. It's not about what I want or what you want.