AW...whelp..here it goes again...

[supermonk]

I’m kind of annoyed. Raiding is more fun with comp. 70 day straight raid suspension is rough. Try to keep morale, hopefully gms can give early parole or something.

[Prismaticshop]

So, when is Detoxx posting April madness ?

[Skew]

Originally Posted by Prismaticshop [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So, when is Detoxx posting April madness ?

Given how staff are cleaning the server of toxic decision makers for FORTY DAYS (Baby Jebus smiled) I assume Detoxx is going to be proposing a fair and balanced rotation for our casual scrum friends this month. Unite the galaxy Detoxx.

[Supaskillz]

I am a little confused. The date on this is from before the last suspension started. Is this just how long it takes to review raid petitions?

It seems odd to me that csr hands out 30 days and see another AW petition is the queue and the solution is to wait until the first suspension is over

[Dagner]

We've already lost 10-15 people in the last 24 hours or so - intentional or not, the guild-killing suspension era has begun.

[Man0warr]

Maybe you guys will finally learn what BDA did years ago and move on.

[Supaskillz]

A lot of problems seem to arise from everyone pulling to TOV entrance? Have agreements been considered to just put an end to this? I am no ToV expert so maybe there is no reasonable solution, but seems like you could somewhat limit the problem by requiring everything be fought in the wing in which is spawns.

[Foxplay]

Originally Posted by Supaskillz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A lot of problems seem to arise from everyone pulling to TOV entrance? Have agreements been considered to just put an end to this? I am no ToV expert so maybe there is no reasonable solution, but seems like you could somewhat limit the problem by requiring everything be fought in the wing in which is spawns.

Currently, unless there was an agreement between the players it isn't feasible

First off any guild that trys to start clearing into north prior to a dragon spawning violates a raid rule (no more than 2 players present at a raid spawn location) and therefore is inillegable for any targets that spawn while they are in North

If a guild happened to start clearing into north as soon as a dragon spawned the FTE and pull would go off to a guild pulling to zone in before their guild was even at Aary pit (and prolly get trained and then they petition and the other guild argues they are roadblocking and didn't have FTE

Add to this separate spawn windows, not all North dragons are up at the same time (unless players made an agreement to "rest the spawns" and allow all the targets to spawn and then clear north the old fashioned way) *fat chance won't happen* So said guild would be clearing North all for 1 dragon, not ganna happen, the raid scene on p99 has been content with rapid fire raids with cheese pulls for a long long time so much so that the rules benefit pulling and make clearing nearly impossible to in some cases detrimental when you have to concede targets that spawn just because you where there and wanted to clear instead of pull and play the FTE game

[Tupakk]

Originally Posted by Foxplay [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Currently, unless there was an agreement between the players it isn't feasible

First off any guild that trys to start clearing into north prior to a dragon spawning violates a raid rule (no more than 2 players present at a raid spawn location) and therefore is inillegable for any targets that spawn while they are in North

If a guild happened to start clearing into north as soon as a dragon spawned the FTE and pull would go off to a guild pulling to zone in before their guild was even at Aary pit (and prolly get trained and then they petition and the other guild argues they are roadblocking and didn't have FTE

Add to this separate spawn windows, not all North dragons are up at the same time (unless players made an agreement to "rest the spawns" and allow all the targets to spawn and then clear north the old fashioned way) *fat chance won't happen* So said guild would be clearing North all for 1 dragon, not ganna happen, the raid scene on p99 has been content with rapid fire raids with cheese pulls for a long long time so much so that the rules benefit pulling and make clearing nearly impossible to in some cases detrimental when you have to concede targets that spawn just because you where there and wanted to clear instead of pull and play the FTE game

It took AG 72 hours to crawl nobody will do that.

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by Tupakk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It took AG 72 hours to crawl nobody will do that.

When Velious released it took 2 guilds roughly 3 to 4 hours to clear all of ToV when you remove the time they spent killing other mobs. That was before CotH mages and other useful things were setup and in place.