Rules Clarification Request

[Symbioticforks]

<Empire> had 90 people, they could dedicate half of their raid force to screw around with potential threats to ensure a PVE victory. Let's base all rulings around the standard of 90 man raid guilds.

[Nyrod]

all the retarded trolls and intentional spinning/straw manning arguments and all the whining and complaining that is going on in here (all directed at staff attempting to help), wonder this hasnt been moved to RnF. i havent heard much constructive except a few posts.

EQ pvp has never been black and white. rules are set in place to reign in (and bring swift justice to) the asshats who want to do shit that no one can properly combat.

people bound in or near a slow able raid mob encounter (often where one cannot get to such bind) in range or not who can just die and load in over and over to pell without actually pvping over and over is beyond unacceptable. if you think that is ok, the rules are for you asshole.

but this is why the rules cant be black and white, if a group of 6 or even less wants to come into that same situation even if the apposing team is doing XYZ raid mob with the minimum+ (lets say 25 or 120 idc) they should have the ability to bash clerics and dispel players. and you cant you see the difference?

the issue is OOR dispels and PEOPLE BIND RUSHING dispelling a raid mob over and over or loading in plugged/camped out toons for no reason but to get a sneak dispel off who arent there to pvp/attack anyone.

as to training a zone out, you guys are talking about HoT exit.....are you mentally challenged?? if you want to get out of ToV you dont train the HoT exit. the excuses you guys come up with. regardless of the location, the fact is mobs that were nowhere near the exit were brought in there, not by the guild sitting at the exit, and no you did not all rush to the zone out because you got agro and were trying to avoid your own train. wtf?? as to it being ragnaros, video clearly shows him dieing very very early. as a rogue. with hide sneak. as one of the first to die. in the corner. by himself. not choosing to zone out. turns around to face mobs. ok...

again, if you think that is ok, whether or not it was specifically him who brought the train, rules are for assholes, probably like you. bringing mobs trailing behing you into a pvp encounter is cheap and not impressive.

i see 2 kinds of people looking for answers here, those who want to get away with shit and those who want to know they are acting within the confines of the rules aswell as utilizing the mechancis of EQ pvp. with that i agree there needs to be an addition to the rules as many have stated here to clarify 2 things specifically. dispelling/training, to CONTINUE enforcing the SPIRIT of the rules against asshats who want to do shit that do not promote a healthy community aswell as allowing those who do to know what not to do.

[necro316]

wot a dum post

[Nyrod]

sorry meant fandango, and if that were true, you are just admitting to being a terrible rogue who didnt use hide sneak. also you admit to being one of the closest persons to get initial agro and or social agro on said mobs because, EQ mechanics 101, they go down the list, you were either #1 or had to have someone agro them first and die or FD them off onto you in the span of seconds from when you all started to enter Midiyor room (and please, again, explain to me how one of our monks (the one who FD next to you) had 3 mobs on them including a named that is halfway to the 4 way before any of your guildmates)

i personally have never used/brought a train intentionally and as retarded as it may sound if i had one i couldnt shake i just let myself die rather than drop it on an apposing team. white knight. get on my lvl.

[Nyrod]

lol i keep forgetting colgate is like 18 IRL

1 it wasnt my guild at the time, k thx

2 literally just admitting to training

3 no one else died in the corner, only him, k thx

4 you sir, are what rules are made for, k thx

5 literally admitting to training

cya

[Nyrod]

log show him dieing first, so....ok lol

cya

[necro316]

not sure wot this kid nyrod is talking about

think he is catching some serious delusions

[necro316]

u think its drugs?

[Nyrod]

lol at people who dont play offering opinions

also, i apologize, you are correct. i have reviewed the video and it is clear that grannock brought the train, fandango, as stupid as he was to die 2nd was not the first to die.

also, LMFAO at seeing that it wasnt Krigara it was Ymmeln who is literally one of the farthest nameds from the HoT exit

[Nyrod]

so much withdrawals when im the most geared warrior in Apex and have more Vulak/Doze loot than anyone except like Drybone and Symbiotic maybe, also i quit from the end of Jan till 2 weeks ago, pretty sure i dont give a fuck.

no one is getting anything done till either side quits logging in and pretty sure we arent quitting and our guild leader isnt going to gear out all his friends/alts then disband the guild.

cya