Calling all Charm Killing Pro's

[fugazi]

It is threads like these that remind me as to why so many players are still quite shit at the game, even after hitting lvl50.

Pets take xp when solo and it deals most dmg. Pets dont take this xp when grouped.

Mobs vary in level. The level difference between you and a mob is a big determiner in how long a charm lasts. Mobs also got varying levels of MR. Some got a higher base mr. Some got/get buffs. Charm blue mobs that are as low as you can go.

Damage in EQ is rng. Sometimes you hit nonstop. Sometimes you miss a lot. Mobs do the same thing. Mobs also hit or miss more depending on their lvl and that of the enemy.

And enchanters need room. Solb sucks, because theres no room. Bring a cleric if you go there.

Also, get -mr gear. Rings. Shoulders. Humanoid mobs use em. It helps, a lot. If there is a cleric, give the pet AC buffs.

I dont mean to sound snarky, but if you didnt know all of the above before hitting lvl30 on the chanter you must've used EQ as a distraction instead of a game you actively play. It is all right there. On these forums. The wiki. The chanters ingame that you can ask for info and tips.

[Tuurin]

It's posts/debates like this that make people play this game 15+ years later. Obsessing about minutiae are all part of classic eq meta.

Ask a question- get some (probably) wrong information, then another guy comes on and confirms the wrong information and even ups the ante (corpses poof !?!) and then when there's evidence to dispute these claims everyone goes full tantrum and tells each other to sheet the fawk up etc. Literally could have found this identical thread 15 years ago on Castersrealm forums. Classic as it gets.

[grimmier]

if a duo you still get half xp. half for you and half for partner. pet gets none.

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by jarlerop [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OP asks for advice from "Charm Killing Pro's" and you join in with completely false "information" and state them as facts. I would be annoyed too.

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hmm, I'm willing to wager a debuff wouldn't be enough - if there isn't at least 1 point of player-dealt damage then it will not only not give exp, but the corpse will poof as well - just as any NPC corpse does when an NPC slays an NPC. A damage shield on the pet wouldn't count as player damage either.

Yep, totally sounds like I was stating an undeniable, inarguable fact here and not just furthering the conversation. What a complete presumptuous asshole I was!

In all seriousness though, you're more than welcome to join the PaulG fanclub, if this is your sodium-infused entrée. I've been considering a slogan - I've got a few in mind, so it's not final, but I was thinking "Swag on PaulG's dick" has a certain ring to it. I'm open to suggestions.

[waltjig]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hmm, I'm willing to wager a debuff wouldn't be enough -if there isn't at least 1 point of player-dealt damage then it will not only not give exp, but the corpse will poof as welll - just as any NPC corpse does when an NPC slays an NPC. A damage shield on the pet wouldn't count as player damage either.

I don't consider myself a master of reading comprehension by any stretch, but this seems to me like someone who is stating an inarguable fact. Especially considering you went on to state how we are lost causes for not believing you, with your stupid Seinfeld meme

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by SoekiWiz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you feel better now that you've expressed your invaluable opinion? <3

I tend to not start out in my DickMasterFlex costume, but if you poke the lion, don't cry when you're bitten. I started out asking the noob who shall not be named to please stop guessing, even said please! My bullshit tolerance threshold is verrah low.

Anywho, to actually make a contribution to the purpose of the thread instead of just responding to respond, I'm going to take the guy's suggestion who said just do the Lvl 1 necro thing tonight.

I'll post results, but my gut is telling me the folks saying the 100% or 50% are the only two scenarios are probably right.

Do I have a volunteer who wants to help me with testing later? I'll need someone for group test. I also want to try the thing the other guy said about being grouped but far enough apart to not actually split the exp.

No, I would prefer a hug tbh :c


I will not be your partner for this endeavor either though. You will have to find someone else.

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by waltjig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't consider myself a master of reading comprehension by any stretch, but this seems to me like someone who is stating an inarguable fact. Especially considering you went on to state how we are lost causes for not believing you, with your stupid Seinfeld meme

The pinnacle of human rationality, ladies and gentlemen.

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah no sane person who cares about accuracy or objectivity in a million years is going to accept testing results from someone as susceptible to emotional appeal and confirmation bias as this idiot. This thread is obviously just an exercise in masturbatory narcissism - he doesn't actually care about things like "data" and "facts", he just wanted to play dress-up as an intellectually superior polymath who brow-beats and condescends to everyone who doesn't immediately agree with and cater to his obviously more advanced knowledge of all things elf sim related.

Someone so fragile and incapable of culpability would be an absolute nightmare to deal with in the real world - imagine trying to confront this guy about a minor mistake he made somewhere along the line. When you try to engage with someone in friendly conversation and you're immediately met with, and I quote, "Quit while you're ahead," there's really nothing else to discuss. At that point everything else that comes out of him is at best highly suspect if not a complete fabrication of his own reality.

QFP (quoted for posterity)

[waltjig]

stop blatantly trolling server chat

[Dothgar]

what happens if u get a mob down to 10% with pet, break charm, re-charm same mob, then kill it with pet. is it 50% of the 10% that u need to deal for full xp?