Population falling?

[stormlord]

It eventually has to decline, for a lot of reasons. No matter how good a game is, you eventually will tire of it. Same stuff every day with a different coat of paint just doesn't do it. You're human afterall.

I know because I played EQ for years and years. I've played so many games I should be dead already. But I know they all get boring. Your eyes literally bleed until you stop. Some you revisit. Some you don't.

A fresh server would help, but realistically it just delays hte inevitable. That doesn't mean we should just quit because for many of you this game is still worth playing. So what're they waiting for? Create another server already. It could possibly be a $$$ thing. How much does it cost to do a server? Or are they concerned about splitting the population? Well they shouldn't be, with so many high levels on the server splitting it would actually be a good thing.

BUT I think if the population falls below ~500, global chat should be reintroduced. There're some things in EQ1 which work against it if the populations falls too low or gets too high. It's not a very flexible system. This is why EQ1 changed so dramatically over the years. It wasn't designed from the start to adjust itself to circumstances. On the downside, these necessary changes were mixed with others not so necessary and it got ruined.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Sporkotron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its impossible to predict if I'm going to get abducted by aliens on my way to work today, or not. But given the evidence I've seen, I can be fairly certain that no, I won't be abducted by aliens on my way to work today.

Servers: same thing. No, I can't predict with 100% accuracy what would happen with a new server, but given that there is no evidence whatsoever of tons of people waiting in the wings to play on a new p99 server outside of the about half a dozen malcontents who hang around these forums for reasons. Its a very safe bet that starting a new server would only serve to split the population.

I get your point. I also think comparing the possibility of you being abducted by aliens while going to work to the success of a new P99 server is a bit of a stretch. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Sporkotron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its impossible to predict if I'm going to get abducted by aliens on my way to work today, or not. But given the evidence I've seen, I can be fairly certain that no, I won't be abducted by aliens on my way to work today.

Servers: same thing. No, I can't predict with 100% accuracy what would happen with a new server, but given that there is no evidence whatsoever of tons of people waiting in the wings to play on a new p99 server outside of the about half a dozen malcontents who hang around these forums for reasons. Its a very safe bet that starting a new server would only serve to split the population.

Yeah, we've been playing with the same 1000 nerds for 7 years. There has always been 1000. There has never been more and there has never been less. They all play here, none have ever quit or taken a break. We don't do that. And there are no new players out there lol. They're all here.

Simple fact is Velious is the best era and there is no reason to assume that anyone (even if they had quit, which we know nobody has) might return, or even start for the first time (they'd already be here, this is Velious!) could possibly want to join a new server where you can't buy items that trivialize all old world content for 100pp at level 10.

Why anyone would think a new server could increase overall p99 population is beyond me.

[big_ole_jpn]

^high quality post

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, we've been playing with the same 1000 nerds for 7 years. There has always been 1000. There has never been more and there has never been less. They all play here, none have ever quit or taken a break. We don't do that. And there are no new players out there lol. They're all here.

Simple fact is Velious is the best era and there is no reason to assume that anyone (even if they had quit, which we know nobody has) might return, or even start for the first time (they'd already be here, this is Velious!) could possibly want to join a new server where you can't buy items that trivialize all old world content for 100pp at level 10.

Why anyone would think a new server could increase overall p99 population is beyond me.

MM weaves sarcasm like an old grandmother knits a cotton sweater.

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[Vibrate]

Originally Posted by Vibrate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2k was quite common for popular servers on live, but other expansions opening up helped even the playing field for lvling.

The current pop on blue is about how it was on Rallos zek, maybe a tad bit more on Rallos.

The timeline here is kinda what screwed peoples minds, when velious came out it was like OOOOH AHHH NEW LVLING ZONES WOO

No one likes to lvl Velious over Kunark for the simple fact that xp is better in Kunark. But back then it was amazing and new to people to lvl in Velious.

/thread

people level also in the most common zones, use to playing red so I know diff hotspots, which I find quite funny I just started and grinding fast with no gear. i wont stand in line for a hour for a group i refuse.

[stormlord]

Originally Posted by Slathar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the population is a complete disaster. this box has been out for 7 years and it's been disaster after disaster.

ive created a new population policy. its beautiful. believe me, it's been beautifully reviewed by just about everyone.

This one is so worth repeating. Imagine 4 years of this if Trump wins. It'll be so great you won't believe it.

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[alphys]

I don't care about mana stones and other shit, I just want to feel like a cool guy with a screaming mace and spirit of wolf.

I played on release and quit shortly after kunark before picking it up again post velious, and I really miss the heavy bottom end with a few at the top.

Not even caring about a healthy population, I just want a new server with even 300 people on it with the level of dedication and stability p99 has provided

[Dronuspk]

Pre-Kunark, 1000 people would be pretty good. Velious though? It's not that great. I think people forget just how many active players there were on every server on Live back in the day...

[stormlord]

I want to add--again--this server has been around for 6--coming on 7-- years. It has been through 2 expansions. Live went through 10 expansions in that same time period. Because no single expansion entirely replaced those before it, live gave high levels more room and hence less fighting over camps. On p1999 there's an abundance of high levels fighting over a handful of camps. If you can't see this as a problem then maybe you don't understand how content can be overrun? Too many is just as bad as too few. EQ--like most MMORPGs--becomes topheavy over time.

The Ruins of Kunark (up thru 60) (Mar 1999--I joined on the 21st)
The Scars of Velious (up thru 60)
The Shadows of Luclin (up thru 60 with AA addition)
The Planes of Power (up thru 65)
The Legacy of Ykesha (up thru 65)
Lost Dungeons of Norrath (up thru 65)
Gates of Discord (up thru 65)
Omens of War (up thru 70)
Dragons of Norrath (up thru 70)
Mines of Gloomingdeep (up thru 15 or 20)--the new tutorial
Depths of Darkhallow (up thru 70) (Mid to Late 2005)

Note live leveraged the increased number of zones by utilizing luclin portals, pok books, guild lobby, gate potions and other. If they'd chosen to instead manufacture travel by 1999 standards then it would have been too slow. Grouping is strongly linked to travel speed, despite a global chat being there. None of this is surprising.

In newer iterations of EQ, almost all of the high levels are concentrated in a single expansion. This is made possible for several reasons. Instances are the most important. Secondly, the population is generally lower. I think it's rare for a modern server to host 1500+ unique IPs--usually a good chunk of players are boxing. Lastly, I think another reason is necessity. They just can't afford to manage content over several expansions as they did in prior years.