Trump's Valor

[Jarnauga]

Lol i'm not a marxist..

I don't want pure equality either. I just want a world where anyone working any job for 35-45 hours a week can live decently. I really don't think it's too much too ask.

[Lune]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So how is any socialist-ish policy going to fix this? Preferably without infringing upon the rights of people who haven't done anything wrong in accumulating wealth, such as, you know, stealing some of their wealth away from them and giving it to someone else instead of letting them decide what they want to do with their own property.

Unionizing allows labor to capture a greater share of wealth through wages and helps achieve a living wage rather than slavery.

Providing healthcare, education, infrastructure, and benefits for military service increases the chance that somebody born into a poor or broken family can be a productive member of society.

Small business owners and successful professionals who make $300k-$500k aren't the problem and reasonable people aren't talking about them when they whine about inequality. It's the people who have gamed the system so extensively that they have captured a truly outlandish amount of wealth.

And it's not about taking away what they have, but fine-tuning many factors that made such a disproportionate accumulation of wealth possible in the first place. Much of it was built on tax fraud, outsourcing, labor exploitation, government corruption, exploiting globalization, and inheritance. If these things are fixed, within a few generations it will even out. We've been through this before with the Gilded Age.

[R Flair]

Originally Posted by Jarnauga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol i'm not a marxist..

I don't want pure equality either. I just want a world where anyone working any job for 35-45 hours a week can live decently. I really don't think it's too much too ask.

Theres always going to be jobs that aren't meant for people to live decently on. Of course, what is decent is the real issue as that varies wildly.

The idea that you can just flip burgers all your life and expect to afford a family and children and other luxuries, is stupid. Some jobs are meant for youth or unskilled laborers while they are learning a trade and looking for a better job.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Unionizing allows labor to capture a greater share of wealth through wages and helps achieve a living wage rather than slavery.

Providing healthcare, education, infrastructure, and benefits for military service increases the chance that somebody born into a poor or broken family can be a productive member of society.

Small business owners and successful professionals who make $300k-$500k aren't the problem and reasonable people aren't talking about them when they whine about inequality. It's the people who have gamed the system so extensively that they have captured a truly outlandish amount of wealth.

And it's not about taking away what they have, but fine-tuning many factors that made such a disproportionate accumulation of wealth possible in the first place. Much of it was built on tax fraud, outsourcing, labor exploitation, government corruption, exploiting globalization, and inheritance. If these things are fixed, within a few generations it will even out. We've been through this before with the Gilded Age.

Welp, I agree with pretty much all of this. Does this mean I have to get baptized now? Not sure I am ready to take that step... ^^

[Nibblewitz]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's the people who have gamed the system so extensively that they have captured a truly outlandish amount of wealth.

banks

[Lune]

Originally Posted by Nibblewitz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

banks

Which also had a lot to do with a complete lack in trust-busting activity on behalf of the government to restore competition among financial institutions. As of 2016 the monopolistic and 'too-big-to-fail' conditions in the financial sector are still going strong (reflecting a similar trend in almost every other industry).

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*Sanders was the only candidate to propose breaking up these institutions.

[Nibblewitz]

Economic inequality is required for this system to function. We need the poor to motivate the middle classes to fight over the limited hamster wheels. If most of the population wasn't kept in a constant struggle with one another they would notice the cooperating institutions pressing down on them.

[Jarnauga]

Originally Posted by Nibblewitz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Economic inequality is required for this system to function. We need the poor to motivate the middle classes to fight over the limited hamster wheels. If most of the population wasn't kept in a constant struggle with one another they would notice the cooperating institutions pressing down on them.

you lie it's all because the mexicans

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was talking about historical Hitler and Nazi Germany, you're quoting some Jew-hating wacko fantasizing about what he thought the ideal National Socialist state would look like.

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[maskedmelon]

lol