Chest's new raid thread is retarded

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Legday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And reciprocate the same problem you think you're trying to fix.

We have Detoxx on tape admitting to a stall tactic and Awakened colluding with it. That's the problem we're trying to fix. It is unclear to what you're referring, though. Can you please elaborate?

[Swish]

So when's the next 6 hour summit?

[Legday]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We have Detoxx on tape admitting to a stall tactic and Awakened colluding with it. That's the problem we're trying to fix. It is unclear to what you're referring, though. Can you please elaborate?

The Kunark raid rules are out of date to Velious. The mechanics are different. So far the only two guilds to have killed most of these mobs have an agreement not to petiton one another in certain scenarios because they agree it's not what is realistically fair.

The message from both Awakened and Aftermath at that meeting was that raid rules are out of date. We want to get things clearly defined for encounters like Yelinak. Before it can be ironed out you are here crying foul. Calling out a single player for being corrupt and a cheater.

You're the problem. You and players like you that have overdeveloped opinions on players and guilds and don't give anybody a chance to make good or meet in the middle. For you, it's all about blaming those players and guilds.

[r0xx0r]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It would be a fallacy to not allow people to name the perpetrators and the cheaters. Name and shame IMO.

You're right- so let's entertain another rotation proposal that Chest will just not follow again? Awe.. too soon? World of Warcraft is offering uncontested raid encounters and they have EMU versions as well.
Don't get me wrong- I was part of Asgard and the majority of us were pro rotation etc. But it wasn't fair for us to get free shots just because we wanted to. Mobilize, compete, preperation- all things we were lacking as a whole and hence my thinking of us not deserving equality. High End guilds have been sitting and waiting on spawns since the beginning as well as preparing with strats/gear/quick response, you don't think that merits for time put in at least?
The screen sharing thing is a joke. Another shoddy attempt at stirring the pot and while it worked nothing will come of it except another long thread.

[Pokesan]

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[Kushie]

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[Kushie]

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[manguard]

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i wanna be the very best like noone ever was

you teach me and i teach you, poke-e-san

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Legday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The message from both Awakened and Aftermath at that meeting was that raid rules are out of date. We want to get things clearly defined for encounters like Yelinak. Before it can be ironed out you are here crying foul. Calling out a single player for being corrupt and a cheater.

You're the problem. You and players like you that have overdeveloped opinions on players and guilds and don't give anybody a chance to make good or meet in the middle. For you, it's all about blaming those players and guilds.

So I'm the problem for calling out the corruption and the cheating? It's not the corruption and the cheating that's inherently the problem? jenniferlawrenceokay.gif

Originally Posted by r0xx0r [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't get me wrong- I was part of Asgard and the majority of us were pro rotation etc. But it wasn't fair for us to get free shots just because we wanted to. Mobilize, compete, preperation- all things we were lacking as a whole and hence my thinking of us not deserving equality. High End guilds have been sitting and waiting on spawns since the beginning as well as preparing with strats/gear/quick response, you don't think that merits for time put in at least?

There are a lot of people who mobilize, compete, and prepare. And then there are those that do it 24/7. The problem is that the 24/7 people think that they then have the right to stomp all over the people who don't do it 24/7 when it comes to competing on the same targets. This includes training, stalling, lying about having evidence of infractions, illegal FTEs, and more. All because of their sense of entitlement from socking 24/7. Nobody cares about the mobs that they don't compete for, like the ones that spawn in the morning on work days, but that's not enough to satiate the hunger of the entitled ones.

Originally Posted by r0xx0r [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The screen sharing thing is a joke. Another shoddy attempt at stirring the pot and while it worked nothing will come of it except another long thread.

It's no excuse to allow them to two-box, though. It's another line that we have to draw between cheating and not cheating. Naturally, we're going to have people that fall on both sides of the discussion, but it's almost always going to play out that the ones in favor of cheating are the ones benefiting from it.

[dafier]

This thread is craptastic. So glad I can post.

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