Chest's new raid thread is retarded

[Batso]

Using Skype is simply playing smarter. We also use teamspeak and twitter.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So how about this, I'm at work right now. What if before I had left this morning I had flopped Chest in Hoshkar's lair facing his spawn, and then setup skype, and left that link for my guild. Now we don't need a ranger, we don't need bind sight classes, we don't have to sacrifice anyone to face track, it's all done through screensharing. Does that seem ok? My view is it isn't and it's essentially two boxing.

Assuming we draw that conclusion, that it is in fact boxing, how do you prove to the staff that your competition is screen sharing aside from them admitting it? You don't. That's why it's legal, because it's impossible to police.

That was Haynar's view, too!

Originally Posted by Batso [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Using Skype is simply playing smarter. We also use teamspeak and twitter.

Only one of these three actually allow you to enter the other players computer through screen sharing.

[Danth]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So how about this, I'm at work right now. What if before I had left this morning I had flopped Chest in Hoshkar's lair facing his spawn, and then setup skype, and left that link for my guild. Now we don't need a ranger, we don't need bind sight classes, we don't have to sacrifice anyone to face track, it's all done through screensharing. Does that seem ok? My view is it isn't and it's essentially two boxing.

If my wife were to park her character somewhere and go AFK and I look at her screen to monitor things it *is* boxing according to the rules here. It's not ambiguous at all; that's about as flagrant as things get. People have been banned for much less. If I run through skype to do the same thing suddenly it's supposed to be okay? What a laugh.

If skype cannot be effectively policed, the most rational solution is to implement a system where doing the above confers no appreciable advantage.

Danth

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If my wife were to park her character somewhere and go AFK and I look at her screen to monitor things it *is* boxing according to the rules here. It's not ambiguous at all; that's about as flagrant as things get. People have been banned for much less. If I run through skype to do the same thing suddenly it's supposed to be okay? What a laugh.

Exactly.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If my wife were to park her character somewhere and go AFK and I look at her screen to monitor things it *is* boxing according to the rules here. It's not ambiguous at all; that's about as flagrant as things get. People have been banned for much less. If I run through skype to do the same thing suddenly it's supposed to be okay? What a laugh.

In this vein, using Skype to track is basically using a cell phone to do a near field connection separate from your home connection to log into a second account for two-boxing purposes. And we all know that only Jeremy is allowed to do this.

[bktroost]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=189856

[Fire Beetle]

Devil's Advocate: "What if I left my toon there AFK with logs running so next week I have an idea of his window."

Yes there is no way to police this. Shit's classic bro?

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

What if John Wilkes Booth had a camera set up in Lincoln's private box, so that he could tell when Lincoln was not paying attention and his security detail had left the room?

Would that make him any less guilty of murder?

No, it would not.

[bktroost]

I hope you guys can figure it out soon. Stakes just got much higher if you are wrong....

"A lot of you have questions as to crime & punishment; I hope to address that here:
If a petition comes to the staff, the offending guild/party will have the loots removed (if they got the kill), and will be suspended from all raid targets for 10 days. If a guild wastes the staffs time with false, trumped up, dishonest, or insincere petitions against other guilds, then the petitioning guild will receive the 10 day suspension. In addition to this, if the petitioned guild is found to be at fault, the loot will be destroyed and not awarded to anyone. In addition to that, any appropriate individual suspensions will also be applied (ie: suspended for training if caught training, etc). The staff strongly encourages players to concede/forfeit targets as soon as possible if they break a rule, and of course to also take a Screenshot of the concession/forfeiture, just in case another guild tries to say it never happened." -- Sirken's new rule.

[ArumTP]

Originally Posted by bktroost [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hope you guys can figure it out soon. Stakes just got much higher if you are wrong....

"A lot of you have questions as to crime & punishment; I hope to address that here:
If a petition comes to the staff, the offending guild/party will have the loots removed (if they got the kill), and will be suspended from all raid targets for 10 days. If a guild wastes the staffs time with false, trumped up, dishonest, or insincere petitions against other guilds, then the petitioning guild will receive the 10 day suspension. In addition to this, if the petitioned guild is found to be at fault, the loot will be destroyed and not awarded to anyone. In addition to that, any appropriate individual suspensions will also be applied (ie: suspended for training if caught training, etc). The staff strongly encourages players to concede/forfeit targets as soon as possible if they break a rule, and of course to also take a Screenshot of the concession/forfeiture, just in case another guild tries to say it never happened." -- Sirken's new rule.

10 day suspension is junk for completely unrelated targets. Looks like you will force your way yet into NTOV. All I expect is guilds deliberately now frapsing and forcing themselves into terrible positions to petition out other guilds for 10 days.