VD = BAD

[nalkin]

Originally Posted by t0lkien [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If might makes right on P99 in reality (not in rhetoric), it's going to become a pretty unpleasant place to be for many of us.

"Might does not make right! Right makes right!" - BEST BOOK EVER

Anyway. I didn't really read this whole thing, but if VD took the camp after enchanter died and mage was the only one up there, is the camp fair to claim? Is it a D-bag move? Your answer to these questions is the same.

[Nakara]

no it's not the same answer because the rules only address trying to camp multiple camps at once, not what happens if you partially wipe at '1' camp

not that the rules mean shit but yea

[Acillatem]

The thing that still bothers me is that I called Efreeti was camped, I announced that we had just got GEBS, so why the fuck did a group spend all that time fighting their way up to a camp that was taken?

Becuz people claim Efreeti all the time from the zoneline hoping they can get there uncontested. Normally I wouldn't bother going to verify but:

[Thu Dec 02 14:02:28 2010] Roofie says out of character, 'Well Ard you did train a shit load of Dogs to the zone line about 10 mins ago.'

That gave me "reasonable doubt" that you weren't even there - hence we decided to press on.

If I go and someone is there, I /tell them and ask, "Are you camping this".

We got up to the top of the ramp and saw you there. YOU didn't even give us the CHANCE to talk to you before you started goin off in /ooc. We got to the top and aggro'd a mob and before the fight was over - /ooc ranting.

At that point - (oh and after I saw yer guildtag) I responded in /ooc (since that was your choice channel of communication not /tells). My /ooc response was pretty damn close to "you were here first - we'll give you 5 minutes to pull". If you wanna be an asshole - I can do the same. I didn't just roll up there with a zerg attitude - but you sure pushed me in that direction right from the get-go.

Your response?

"I'm /petitioning a GM".

You insta-flame in /ooc and then threaten a petition? And you wanna bitch at me about respecting your camp?

Why should I? If yer gunna take the ass-hole mentality and rant in /ooc and threaten a /petition before we even do anything other than GET to the top ... well game on then dude.

Once you said that - I said "fuk the 5 minutes". Cast Eye of Zomm and we all know the rest.


1)You claim yer at the efreeti, but in the same breath others are calling you out in zone for trains. That tells me you might not be at efreeti - at the very least it's worth investigating IMO.
2)You want to claim how if you showed up at someone's camp you would be courteous and /tells etc - however YOU initiated conversation with us by ranting in /ooc and telling us you petitioned a GM before we even did anything. WTF dude?

Sorry man - maybe next time take your own advice and send a fukin /tell. Politely.

[Nakara]

Originally Posted by Acillatem [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Becuz

really? i mean c'mon

[saucer]

From a bystander who is not associated with either party and who has read this thread in its entirety:
Fuck VD.

At the least it was an incredibly douche-baggish move which is against what the server stands for, and at the most it wasn't even in accordance with the rule because the mob in question hadn't even repopped since the original group had killed it.

You do not have the authority to make a determination on what class makeup and number has the ability to clear a camp if the mobs are down, you have to wait for the fucking mob to actually spawn again and then wait for the person/group to either fail or not attempt to kill the mob.

To simplify it: if a singular mob/ph in question is 1) not spawned and 2) another pc is sitting there, clearly in the camp, then the camp is not up for grabs in the slightest and you must wait for 1) the mob to spawn and, either, A) the PC(s) to fail; or B) the PC(s) to not attempt to kill the mob.

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by M.Bison [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who the fuck is VD?

Srsly?

Vesica Dei...

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Srsly?

Vesica Dei...

Subtle sarcasm is subtle.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by Ledzepp02 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most intelligent part of this log..

No, i'd say the cookies part was...I would totally be like OMG WHO TOOK MY COOKIES in a Mr. T voice if someone took my cookies

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

I have run into people 'duoing' the efreeti camp. Personally, I don't care if you were first, if the mob is up over a certain time frame, you run the risk of losing said camp.

I tire of people claiming a camp solo or duo, they or one of them dies, and they try locking down this camp with the mobs up, while they try however many times it takes to win.

6 people isn't a zerg, it's a group. And duoing efreeti isn't 'skillz'. I'll never understand people who brag about doing something with less people then is efficient. I don't care if you do hate with 5 people. The objective isn't to take all friggin day, the plane is there for loots. Fuq spending 12 hours with 5 people, give me the 40 people and we get in and out fast. Screw doing fire giants with 2 people and taking hours, give me a couple of groups and knock it out fast.

I would also like to point out, that if the enchanter died, and only the mage was there when the VD group came up, it was the VD group that killed the mobs on the way to efreeti. Therefore making the return of said enchanter faster, with no mobs being up. So the illusion of "I got back fast" means nothing to me here.

I remember running into a cleric/enc combo duoing efreeti, only they couldn't do it within 30 minutes to an hour. We moved up with maybe 10-12 people from fire giants, which could be classified as overkill for the camp, but the goal was to go up, kill efreeti, and get back to fire giants before respawns of the mobs in between. So we took overkill, ran up, and allowed them the chance to make an attempt. I didn't really feel I had to, given that the mob had been up for over an half hour, but ok, go for it. They tried, failed, and died. I pulled efreeti, we dragged their corpses and ressed them. Instead of thanks for saving them potentially a good chunk of time cr'ing, I am cursed out for stealing a camp. Needless to say, we didn't stay, we went back to fire giants as intended. All we did was give them a broken camp, and a quick cr. Greed and paranoia is what I call it in this game. People get selfish and paranoid about MY CAMP, and this is the result.

I could give a rat's ass about people who like to farm camps like this. I would consider being in favor of a rule that defers the camp to a full group over any, to encourage social play in a mmorpg. I can understand your frustration, but you are angry because you are potentially losing loot, not because of their actions. They didn't roll up and steal the named spawn with you sitting there. It's your camp? Pull the mob and kill it. Keep the spawns down.

Sermon over.

[Exxon]

Originally Posted by Odeseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh, and this goes for everyone. Why are you still bitching at each other? Seriously.

Hi there, I think you are in the wrong sub-forum my friend.