Game Mechanics: Lord Vyemm's stats

[Colgate]

yeah like i said, our last attempt on him before tank got bugged in a wall, we got him to 92% and melee parse alone did 78,000 damage to him

[Daldaen]

Ah I apologize everyone! EQLive changed the way the text display of DS Damage and I hadn't updated my Gamparse since I quit live in 2012/13.

Lord Vyemm in 1737s, 359k @207sdps --- Daldaen 359k@207sdps (207dps in 1737s) [100%]

359,108 DMG total over 1737 seconds.

350K sounds correct.

[Colgate]

should put his regen at around 31/tick assuming he has 350k hp

[Daldaen]

After seeing the raid makeup Rampage brought out to kill it, it's safe to say his HP is far overtuned from what it should be.

350k with 30 HP/tick regen sounds about right based off the logs I took from live.

Rampage had, at its peak, 15 Clerics, 14 Rogues, 6 Monks, 6 Wizards and a total raid count in the 75~ range based on who's I took during our HoT clear.

No raid should have 14 Level 60 Rogues with Ragebringers stabbing a mob for so long that a 15 cleric chain goes OOM...

[Nirgon]

I had this sneaking suspicion that is now confirmed

You doubled it

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[koros]

Looks like you guys have this covered. Just came to say that he was absolutely 1190 max in Velious. I remember odd shit like that really well for some reason.

Here's Delheru who was notoriously pedantic and accurate confirming in 2001.

http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/arch...p?t-10890.html

08-27-2001, 01:45 PM
NToV is quite entertaining... there aren't many actually _hard_ dragons (meaning significantly harder than say Tormax or Yelinak). Really once you learn them and are equipped well enough you can 30man Ikatiar, Eashen, Aaryonar, Feshlak, Mirinella, Koi'doken, Sevalak, Cekenar, Jorlleag, Zlexak, Nevederia... but that is sort of the idea and some of these dragons are far from trivial before you learn them (Aary and Zlexak especially, Neve to some degree). Kreizenn and Dagarn aren't difficult, but do need some melee power to take out (36-42 certainly, but I doubt 30). Vyemm is the most difficult one, though it needs some brains to figure out and I'm sure it'll be a lot less fun when it's well posted where are the best places to fight it etc. Still, quad 1190 is nothing to scoff at and your agro control better be good, since him turning around a lot is something you do NOT want to see http://eqcleric.gameglow.com/ubb/wink.gif

Still I would probably be gone for EQ had NToV not pulled me in for the final challenge. What worries me is that a lot of guilds are 'finishing' Velious too early. We've killed everything short of Ventani (might be capable, but not interested looking at what BotS got for their troubles) and Tunare and the farm rounds of ToV are getting trivial (one wipesized loss during the whole raid to a misplaced Vyemm who died within 30 minutes of the wipe). Sure the loot is godly, but such a great amount drops every clear and farming for what.. 3-4 months really isn't my idea of fun :/

Those who have yet to conquer NToV, go do it now. Exploring the place is more than rewarding and unless you get freshly chewed out tactics from those that have already cleared, it'll keep you busy for quite some time as well.

-- Delheru Tanreall
Ascent (http://www.ascentguild.com), Rodcet Nife

Also here's a Japanese guild.

http://room369.sakura.ne.jp/eq/perso...diary0110.html


§ Lord Vyemm Dead 2001/10/22

Lord Vyemm - Temple Veeshan の Dragon の中で君主である Vulak'Aerr とNo.1、No.2の座を争うと言われているDragon。Max 1190 のダメージと、AE Knockback + Graviflux を合わせ持つ、まさに最強といわれてもおかしくないその力。勝つためには45人から60人必要と呼ばれるD ragon に Vane が6 Party、約 36人で挑みます。（人が足らないだけとも言えます（汗））

[Buhbuh]

Yeah, I think our first kill on Vyemm in week 1 parsed really high, too. Vyemm wasn't 700k (in just melee damage), but I'm pretty certain it was around 450k. But these fights should only be lasting 2-3 minutes with 80-90 people.

I don't even know why he was changed on our servers. Wasn't he already hitting for 1190 in week 1 here? I think his HP was higher than it was on live already, and he still died.

It's fine if the developers just want to say, "This is staying where it's at. We've decided to keep its difficulty this way, and it's just something you'll have to deal with."

But if we're going with classic, Vyemm was only hard because your heal team had to keep it together and be on point for that short duration (and your tanks could still be in trouble). Right now he's like, what, a 10 minute fight? That's absurd.

In fact, if we're to believe the HP values of all the mobs in NToV that are listed in this thread, the majority of them are way, way off. Eashen is definitely not 100k HP. Kreizenn is not 200k. Cekenar 150? Sevalak 100k? Zlexak 66k (double a Kunark dragon)? Not even close.

[Daldaen]

Make it classic cause classic is best.

Remove the Luclin roaming drakes as well, edit some faction values based on my recent parses from live.

Then rejoice in classic NToV.

[heartbrand]

This is from Live

/GU Dozekar the Cursed in 47s, 423k @8996dps --- Eliezzer + pets 423k @8996dps

/GU Lord Koi`Doken in 74s, 655k @8855dps --- Eliezzer + pets 655k @8855dps

/GU Lord Vyemm in 222s, 387k @1744dps --- Eliezzer 387k @1744dps

/GU Eashen of the Sky in 35s, 321k @9166dps --- Eliezzer 321k @9166dps

[heartbrand]

Unfortunately, many of the buffed mobs here cater to the Zergs the staff seemingly dislike. Nothing would be better for competition and smaller raid crews than to tune the mobs correctly. The HP definitely seems out of whack. Here's some HP parses:

/GU Ikatiar the Venom in 137s, 197k @1440dps --- Gream 11k @91dps --- Rabid 10k @84dps --- Cutter 9k @72dps --- Muhh 9k @76dps --- Grannock 9k @74dps --- Chiggen 9k @75dps --- Nakor 9k @74dps --- Gaping 8k @74dps --- Guttzs 8k @68dps --- Checkraise 8k @65dps

/GU Klandicar in 100s, 136k @1358dps --- Grannock 9k @92dps --- Gaping 9k @101dps --- Checkraise 8k @86dps --- Gream 7k @78dps --- Rabid 7k @76dps --- Tyranny 6k @70dps --- Cutter 6k @66dps --- Chuckslaw 5k @67dps --- Stigmata 5k @51dps --- Chiggen 5k @52dps

/GU Aaryonar in 345s, 389k @1126dps --- Cutter 20k @63dps --- Grannock 19k @61dps --- Tyranny 18k @59dps --- Rabid 18k @58dps --- Muhh 18k @58dps --- Engelburt 17k @54dps --- Stigmata 17k @55dps --- Checkraise 17k @54dps --- Gaping 16k @57dps --- Nakor 14k @45dps

/GU Eashen of the Sky in 161s, 175k @1087dps --- Cutter 10k @78dps --- Tyrionn 10k @77dps --- Rabid 9k @89dps --- Grannock 9k @78dps --- Stigmata 8k @65dps --- Little 8k @56dps --- Guttzs 8k @71dps --- Rygrim 7k @57dps --- Muhh 7k @75dps --- Checkraise 7k @43dps

/GU Dozekar the Cursed in 298s, 326k @1092dps --- Cutter 24k @85dps --- Rabid 22k @80dps --- Purse 20k @70dps --- Checkraise 19k @67dps --- Colgate 19k @64dps --- Muhh 19k @67dps --- Grannock 15k @53dps --- Guttzs 14k @50dps --- Chiggen 14k @49dps --- Rygrim 13k @44dps

/GU Lord Kreizenn in 177s, 285k @1610dps --- Deetz 15k @86dps --- Grannock 15k @84dps --- Colgate 12k @92dps --- Rabid 12k @70dps --- Muhh 12k @67dps --- Guttzs 11k @67dps --- Gongshow 11k @79dps --- Eoghan 11k @63dps --- Little 11k @61dps --- Chiggen 10k @58dps

/GU Lord Feshlak in 214s, 299k @1395dps --- Cwall 18k @87dps --- Deetz 16k @77dps --- Cutter 16k @73dps --- Rabid 13k @60dps --- Grannock 12k @58dps --- Muhh 11k @52dps --- Rygrim 10k @49dps --- Chiggen 10k @47dps --- Gummybear 10k @47dps --- Colgate 10k @58dps

/GU Dagarn the Destroyer in 130s, 200k @1535dps --- Deetz 12k @96dps --- Grannock 10k @81dps --- Muhh 10k @86dps --- Tyrionn 9k @77dps --- Gream 9k @69dps --- Rabid 8k @69dps --- Rocknrolla 8k @66dps --- Cutter 8k @64dps --- Chiggen 8k @60dps --- Stigmata 7k @62dps

/GU Dain Frostreaver IV in 362s, 372k @1028dps --- Gream 23k @64dps --- Deetz 18k @51dps --- Cutter 17k @57dps --- Tyrionn 16k @46dps --- Checkraise 16k @44dps --- Rabid 15k @55dps --- Awfal 13k @43dps --- Chiggen 12k @42dps --- Feen 11k @41dps --- Eoghan 11k @42dps

/GU The Statue of Rallos Zek in 309s, 448k @1450dps --- Grannock 21k @73dps --- Chuckslaw 20k @68dps --- Cutter 19k @73dps --- Tyrionn 18k @72dps --- Deetz 18k @65dps --- Muhh 17k @71dps --- Nakor 17k @62dps --- Checkraise 16k @55dps --- Rabid 16k @63dps --- Klepto 14k @47dps