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Old 07-23-2015, 12:50 PM
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How do you do it? Simple. Throw math out the window.
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Old 07-23-2015, 12:56 PM
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How do you do it? Simple. Throw math out the window.
I cannot throw the most pure science form out the window - Does not compute.

Iksars are the best. Everything else is fashionquest.
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Old 07-23-2015, 01:26 PM
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and just to put that in perspective -- how much do you guys think Zlandicar's Heart will sell for? i'm thinking prices comparable to AoN.
Hard to compare, AoN is a purely fashionquest item that everyone desires, Zheart is functional item that really only one class desires.

The zheart is a common drop, and zlandicar's respawn rate is about 3 days. So figure 10 zlandicars are killed per month.

Lets say the average guild gets 3 zlandicars a month, then they are getting 1-2 zhearts per month.

If there are on average 10 active necros per guild wanting zheart, you've got 5-10 months before all the mains in a guild have zheart.

Pretty hard to predict because it will probably be unbalanced and one guild getting more kills/hearts than another but they won't hit the market till a guild starts getting excess hearts.

I can easily see 200-300k per zheart as a stabilized price, and zhearts not hitting the market and being sold for the first 10 months.

Still cheaper/better than necro epic.
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Old 07-23-2015, 07:33 PM
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Hard to compare, AoN is a purely fashionquest item that everyone desires.
Did you actually just call the only instant click item in the game that doesn't require a target, shrinks large races, manipulates faction, is usuable from inventory by any class at level one, and imparts no negative effects on the user 'purely fashionquest'?

Do you know nothing about this game?
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Old 07-23-2015, 09:42 AM
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Iksars are great necros, no doubt about it. But I chose to roll Dark Elf just because.
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Old 07-23-2015, 04:51 PM
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If you're going to talk about maxing out a velious necro also take into consideration they have access to lifetap clickies.
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Old 07-23-2015, 04:56 PM
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If you're going to talk about maxing out a velious necro also take into consideration they have access to lifetap clickies.
There are two.

1 from VP
1 from Velketor

The Velketor one sucks. The VP one is good. Even with those, a gnome will have to spend more time clicking 10s cast time rings or staves to top his health off than an Iksar will. That Iksar will be able to med more or cast more in that time.

A high end raiding Necro will be spending The majority of their mana twitching. Occasionally getting a few DoTs on a raid mob is nice (though stacking isn't nice until PoP). Many times there are only magic immune raid mobs in camp so you can't lifetap. You can stalking probe or holgresh beads but that's time wasted and mana wasted if you don't have a VP staff, mana that could've been another CH.
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Old 07-23-2015, 05:06 PM
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There are two.

1 from VP
1 from Velketor

The Velketor one sucks. The VP one is good. Even with those, a gnome will have to spend more time clicking 10s cast time rings or staves to top his health off than an Iksar will. That Iksar will be able to med more or cast more in that time.

A high end raiding Necro will be spending The majority of their mana twitching. Occasionally getting a few DoTs on a raid mob is nice (though stacking isn't nice until PoP). Many times there are only magic immune raid mobs in camp so you can't lifetap. You can stalking probe or holgresh beads but that's time wasted and mana wasted if you don't have a VP staff, mana that could've been another CH.
There's a number of ways you can make use of a high end necro. 1 of them is raiding. 1 is solo farming. The other is group farming. On a good deal of raids you'll still have targets you can lifetap which helps add to dps so it's not a complete wash. And lifetap dps can be very useful when solo and group farming.

If you have all the gadgets, what are you using your mana on when soloing/group farming?
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Old 07-23-2015, 01:32 PM
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so picking any race other than iksar is like sacrificing a free ~250k item.
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Old 07-23-2015, 03:18 PM
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so picking any race other than iksar is like sacrificing a free ~250k item.
Except Zlandi heart is +5hp/tick and at 60 Iksar is +11hp/tick.
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