An open letter from <Forsaken>

[Juryiel]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dear fellow Project 99ers,

In light of the recent events, I would personally like to address the circumstances leading up to the formation of Forsaken and our recent suspension. First and foremost, I have the utmost respect for Rogean and all staff members that make this server, one of the only legitimate classic servers, possible. I feel I can speak for everyone when I say their tireless efforts are much appreciated.

I know there has been some confusion and false rumors about the creation of this guild, so let me take a moment and clear that up. Forsaken was formed for two main reasons: to finally remove the stigma of the tag we formerly held and at the same time keep the community of players together that I have considered family for years. This being the case, nearly everyone who was a part of this family was, of course, welcomed into our new home. The previous guild split into four factions, some to red, some who stayed, some who quit all together, and the remainder who came to Forsaken. A lot of trust and respect was placed in my hands during all this and I'm grateful for that.

Our recent decision to be in class R was for several reasons, and none of which were to blatantly circumvent any rules. There was also no intent to target any guild and it was certainly not done with any intent to disrespect the server rules. It was simply done to get the players that had just gone through a huge transition some time to settle in and get accustomed to our whole new structure, dkp system, forums and leaders. There was no intent to stay in R, we simply just wanted to use the class system as it was intended: to practice in R and move to C, which was absolutely what we were going to do.

If any guilds in class R have felt slighted, please understand this was not our intention by being in R for a short time period. We look forward to putting this misunderstanding behind us and continuing to grow our relationships with any and all guilds. If you feel a member of Forsaken has treated you poorly or have any guild concerns as a whole, please do not hesitate to bring them to me or any of the Forsaken leadership and we will do our best to remedy the situation. We wish you all the best of luck!

Sincerely,
Detoxx

Hey Detoxx and Forsaken,

I think most people without a pre-existing axe to grind can see the situation as it is, that Forsaken did not reform their entire guild structure / website / DKP with intent to circumvent the rules to get just a few weeks worth of R mobs. That hardly seems worth the effort and that claim makes no sense.

It's also promising to see you guys not engage in RNF crap, it really does make the server more toxic, so I think so far so good on the new guild.

Hopefully things will start looking up when this incident is behind you guys. Good luck in building your guild and don't let the trolls get you down.

[Faited]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Forsaken was formed for two main reasons: to finally remove the stigma of the tag we formerly held and at the same time keep the community of players together that I have considered family for years.

Our recent decision to be in class R was for several reasons, and none of which were to blatantly circumvent any rules. There was also no intent to target any guild and it was certainly not done with any intent to disrespect the server rules. It was simply done to get the players that had just gone through a huge transition some time to settle in and get accustomed to our whole new structure, dkp system, forums and leaders.

Sincerely,
Detoxx

So in paragraph 1 you say you were keeping the same community of players together & in paragraph 2 you say you joined Class R to have them "practice"? WTF is there to practice if the players who've been doing Class C forever are all moving to the new guild? The reek of bs is strong in this post.

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Faited [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So in paragraph 1 you say you were keeping the same community of players together & in paragraph 2 you say you joined Class R to have them "practice"? WTF is there to practice if the players who've been doing Class C forever are all moving to the new guild? The reek of bs is strong in this post.

To address your concern with respect, we have a lot of apps, and being that not everyone came to the new guild, we needed to assess our numbers and train some newer people. As someone stated before, the amount of work and dedication to do this is not anywhere near worth sitting in class R to maybe get a few mobs a month.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Faited [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So in paragraph 1 you say you were keeping the same community of players together & in paragraph 2 you say you joined Class R to have them "practice"? WTF is there to practice if the players who've been doing Class C forever are all moving to the new guild? The reek of bs is strong in this post.

Leadership structure, the way the guild takes commands and the way they are delivered are really big things in raiding. When you have new people in different roles you really have no idea how that will work overall until you apply it. Had we went into VP and due to poor communication that hadn't been worked out a train happened. We would have been suspended as well. I'd rather the guild be entirely on the same page and running smoothly before throwing all those people to the fire.

I respect your opinion though and glad you shared it. We agree some folks will see this differently than we intend. That was discussed beforehand as well. I talked with officers in some guilds via PMs beforehand to dissuade any misunderstandings. Some you can't dissuade no matter how hard you try.

[slydexx]

Why are you explaining anything to idiots on these forums?
No one gives a shit about the truth so don't waste your time.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by slydexx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why are you explaining anything to idiots on these forums?
No one gives a shit about the truth so don't waste your time.

It's all lipstick on a pig.

[Aadill]

But pigs make bacon?

[Faited]

In an effort to make this a bit more positive (this aint RnF!), I do like Swage so I wish y'all the best of luck in distancing yourselves from that negative stigma. Now go live up to your post!

[JayN]

Originally Posted by Faited [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In an effort to make this a bit more positive (this aint RnF!), I do like Swage so I wish y'all the best of luck in distancing yourselves from that negative stigma. Now go live up to your post!

rofl /thread

[reborn649]

I think it accomplished exactly what it was suppose to. Statement of facts about who we are, the unintentional actions that lead to a suspension, and what is to come. Trolls can try to deter that, but the OP stays in tact.