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[Ragnaros]

Need Competition w/o petitionquest
please and thank you

[derpcake]

Its pretty funny that OP implies that holocaust will control Ntov, while at the same time seeming to believe that a small force is just going to get to a raid unscathed.

Ntov plenty of bottlenecks, lots of mobs that could hang around at those spots, holo would have a 10x easier time defending Ntov compared to porting into a prepared hate raid, and we know how that ended.

Please guys, stop posting on the forum and get shit going ingame. I hope you can do it!

[Kringe]

Originally Posted by derpcake [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its pretty funny that OP implies that holocaust will control Ntov, while at the same time seeming to believe that a small force is just going to get to a raid unscathed.

Ntov plenty of bottlenecks, lots of mobs that could hang around at those spots, holo would have a 10x easier time defending Ntov compared to porting into a prepared hate raid, and we know how that ended.

Please guys, stop posting on the forum and get shit going ingame. I hope you can do it!

Apprently you have never raided Ntov in your life based on this concept. You cannot "defend Ntov" if you are killing said dragons/mobs inside... You faction is shit, grant it your faction only buys you time thru the first hallway past the 4way split and about up to Eashen, Aary, but that's all you need, getting to a raid from there is very easy.... Causing a wipe is even easier as the entire raid force you have A) wont have sow and B) are at the mercy of the aggressor.

Your rapture/SK team cannot stop people running in DA to reach your clerics.... I wont delve any further than that... But continue to be naïve in thinking a raid force is "an unstoppable force" while in ntov/kael and a few other Velious raid places.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Kringe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Apprently you have never raided Ntov in your life based on this concept. You cannot "defend Ntov" if you are killing said dragons/mobs inside... You faction is shit, grant it your faction only buys you time thru the first hallway past the 4way split and about up to Eashen, Aary, but that's all you need, getting to a raid from there is very easy.... Causing a wipe is even easier as the entire raid force you have A) wont have sow and B) are at the mercy of the aggressor.

Your rapture/SK team cannot stop people running in DA to reach your clerics.... I wont delve any further than that... But continue to be naïve in thinking a raid force is "an unstoppable force" while in ntov/kael and a few other Velious raid places.

This sounds like a large waste of time that a group of 10 guys would need to invest countless hours in just to pull it off. Then they would most likely get bored within a few weeks and quit if they weren't banned.

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by Kringe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Apprently you have never raided Ntov in your life based on this concept. You cannot "defend Ntov" if you are killing said dragons/mobs inside... You faction is shit, grant it your faction only buys you time thru the first hallway past the 4way split and about up to Eashen, Aary, but that's all you need, getting to a raid from there is very easy.... Causing a wipe is even easier as the entire raid force you have A) wont have sow and B) are at the mercy of the aggressor.

Your rapture/SK team cannot stop people running in DA to reach your clerics.... I wont delve any further than that... But continue to be naïve in thinking a raid force is "an unstoppable force" while in ntov/kael and a few other Velious raid places.

My advice?

If you decide to do this get Sirken on record as detailed as possible. That way when people start whining and you get banned, which will happen. You have something to go back on. Even then it wont matter in most cases.

Sirken is not the most reliable when it comes to remember what he said earlier so it it very important to record as much as possible. I still have recordings of Derubeal trying to get info from me to get Sirken kicked off staff so he would take over as lead GM. When I refused he proceeded with his case against Nizzar.

So CYOA.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My advice?

If you decide to do this get Sirken on record as detailed as possible. That way when people start whining and you get banned, which will happen. You have something to go back on. Even then it wont matter in most cases.

Sirken is not the most reliable when it comes to remember what he said earlier so it it very important to record as much as possible. I still have recordings of Derubeal trying to get info from me to get Sirken kicked off staff so he would take over as lead GM. When I refused he proceeded with his case against Nizzar.

So CYOA.

first of all, you dont have any info to get Sirken kicked off staff because Sirken hasnt done anything that would get him kicked off staff. Multiple servers, staffs, and projects over the last 7 years, and ive never been removed because my whistle is clean. people might not always agree with my methods or logic, but i dont break Staff Rules.

Secondly, im pretty sure that if you ask Kringe he will tell you that while we dont always agree on everything, ive never treated him unfairly.

[Littlegyno 13.0]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

first of all, you dont have any info to get Sirken kicked off staff because Sirken hasnt done anything that would get him kicked off staff. Multiple servers, staffs, and projects over the last 7 years, and ive never been removed because my whistle is clean. people might not always agree with my methods or logic, but i dont break Staff Rules.

Secondly, im pretty sure that if you ask Kringe he will tell you that while we dont always agree on everything, ive never treated him unfairly.

pras sirken.

kek about derubael trying 2 get dirt on sirken.

just a big loud kekkling in my khakis.

snortling in my shorts.

[Sektor]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

first of all, you dont have any info to get Sirken kicked off staff because Sirken hasnt done anything that would get him kicked off staff. Multiple servers, staffs, and projects over the last 7 years, and ive never been removed because my whistle is clean. people might not always agree with my methods or logic, but i dont break Staff Rules.

Secondly, im pretty sure that if you ask Kringe he will tell you that while we dont always agree on everything, ive never treated him unfairly.

pras Sirken.

U FUX WIT SIRKEN U FUX WIT ME ELDERAN GO BUY ZADES OTHER TOONS AND GET MORE NAME CHANGES THANK YOU GOODBYE.

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

first of all, you dont have any info to get Sirken kicked off staff because Sirken hasnt done anything that would get him kicked off staff. Multiple servers, staffs, and projects over the last 7 years, and ive never been removed because my whistle is clean. people might not always agree with my methods or logic, but i dont break Staff Rules.

Secondly, im pretty sure that if you ask Kringe he will tell you that while we dont always agree on everything, ive never treated him unfairly.

Dear Sirken..

I have recordings of our conversation where you clearly stated that anything we said or did outside the game including team speak would never be held against us. That what we did outside the game was our business and never the staffs. After TS recordings and our private forums screen shots were used to get some of us banned I brought this up with Deru during my conversations with him.

When I explained this to Deru he wanted these recordings so he could "Get you removed from staff". That is what he said. I refuse to play that game. I would never do such a thing and called him a little cunt who was power hungry and go to fuck himself. That is when he went forward with the perm banning.

Sirken, we have talked a lot and I have ZERO problems with you. I think you do a thankless job that would drive most people crazy. You are wrong in this situation but I don't blame you, I really don't. I harbor no ill will towards anyone on red 99. Except Jeremy, hes a little bitch.

[Tune]

Originally Posted by Kringe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Apprently you have never raided Ntov in your life based on this concept. You cannot "defend Ntov" if you are killing said dragons/mobs inside... You faction is shit, grant it your faction only buys you time thru the first hallway past the 4way split and about up to Eashen, Aary, but that's all you need, getting to a raid from there is very easy.... Causing a wipe is even easier as the entire raid force you have A) wont have sow and B) are at the mercy of the aggressor.

Your rapture/SK team cannot stop people running in DA to reach your clerics.... I wont delve any further than that... But continue to be naïve in thinking a raid force is "an unstoppable force" while in ntov/kael and a few other Velious raid places.

sounds fun but

[QUOTE=Sirken;1851438]
2) if your purpose is to disrupt, then you're probably guilty of zone disruption. if your purpose is to pvp, then its not disruption, so long as you follow LNS afterwards.
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looks like all hope is lost