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Old 09-30-2010, 03:52 PM
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Its called a debate, get in or get out.




You box and are dumb enough to admit it on the forums.


So are you going to answer my question? Or just spit out bullshit that pot makes you dumb?
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Old 09-30-2010, 05:35 PM
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So are you going to answer my question? Or just spit out bullshit that pot makes you dumb?
In 1974, Dr. Robert G. Heath, a researcher at Tulane University in New Orleans, reported that he had found proof that marijuana caused brain damage while experimenting on monkeys. Heath reported that rhesus monkeys smoking an equivalent of 30 joints a day began to atrophy and die after just 90 days. Autopsies revealed that the monkeys who had been exposed to the marijuana smoke had more dead brain cells than the control monkeys, who had not been exposed.

Is this proof enough?
does not dead brain cells = dumber?
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Old 09-30-2010, 05:40 PM
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30 joints a day began
1. 30 joints is far out of the scope of reality for i'd guess 90% of American marijuana users.

2. You have no knowledge of, or apparent interest in researching the rate the brain physically repairs itself.

"... The new cells and connections that we and others have documented may provide the extra capacity the brain requires for the variety of challenges that individuals face throughout life. Such plasticity offers a possible mechanism through which the brain might be induced to repair itself after injury or disease..."

Ya know Theldios, I am in no way flaming you, but your rationale is the exact reason why we live in a culture of hesistance and inefficiency. Stop fearing the unknown, learn to embrace change, and perhaps gain a little perspective on the way.
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Old 09-30-2010, 06:17 PM
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1. 30 joints is far out of the scope of reality for i'd guess 90% of American marijuana users.

2. You have no knowledge of, or apparent interest in researching the rate the brain physically repairs itself.

"... The new cells and connections that we and others have documented may provide the extra capacity the brain requires for the variety of challenges that individuals face throughout life. Such plasticity offers a possible mechanism through which the brain might be induced to repair itself after injury or disease..."

Ya know Theldios, I am in no way flaming you, but your rationale is the exact reason why we live in a culture of hesistance and inefficiency. Stop fearing the unknown, learn to embrace change, and perhaps gain a little perspective on the way.
WOOSH..
that's the sound of the what my post was about going over your head.
What I posted comes directly from a published document about the effect that pot has on killing brain cells. the reason I posted it someone said prove it does. Thus I posted proof. In no way does that reflect my opinion on the subject. Perhaps a little reading comprehension would go a long way on your part yes?
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Old 09-30-2010, 06:49 PM
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This is kind of a stupid argument to have.
1. Marijuana is not anywhere near as harmful to your body as alcohol or cigarettes.
2. Marijuana has no real legitimate reason to be illegal. Was made illegal for a few factors. One of them being racism. Marijuana was known to be used by jazz musicians who were primarily black. The government did not want any kind of black movement becoming main stream culture.
Another reason it is illegal is that the alcohol and tabaco companies are the main financial contributers behind most anti-marijuana adds. NO shit alcohol companies don't want to compete with weed.
Another reason it is illegal is that multiple Politicians have used it to make advance their careers.
There are other reasons too that i wont go into, but do some research it may open your eyes.
There is no real viable reason why marijuana should be illegal, when we have alcohol which in my opinion has much worse affects on the people's actions, and on the human body. Whether or not you use marijuana, you can't deny that there is no legitimate reason why it is illegal. Like somebody posted earlier if we legalized it and taxed the shit out of it, it would make us money. Not only would the we get money from the taxes, but we would save on police, on fighting the drug cartels, and on prison.
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Old 09-30-2010, 06:42 PM
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Jesus fucking Christ you guys are fucking lazy retards.

If you'd even spend ONE minute in Google Scholar you'd realize that the Dr. Robert G. Heath experiment from 1974 has been discredited over, and over, and over, and over, and over again.

Fuck, even the U.S. Government admitted that marijuana doesn't kils brain cells over TWO decades ago!

The Heath experiment has NEVER been replicated. In fact, in research studies with much better controls and larger monkey samples, time after time, the Heath experiment has been debunked. For example, look up the research by Dr. William Slikker of the National Center for Toxicological Research on the subject. Check out the many others that has discredited the "pot kills brain cells" myth, such as the study by Charles Rebert and Gordon Pryor of SRI International.

Time after time, after time after time.
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Old 09-30-2010, 06:45 PM
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Old 09-30-2010, 06:46 PM
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If you'd even spend ONE minute in Google Scholar you'd realize that the Dr. Robert G. Heath experiment from 1974 has been discredited over, and over, and over, and over, and over again.
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Also @ Theldios this is exactly what I meant. You just blindly pulled something off and the internet and for whatever reason defended it.
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In 1974, Dr. Robert G. Heath, a researcher at Tulane University in New Orleans, reported that he had found proof that marijuana caused brain damage while experimenting on monkeys. Heath reported that rhesus monkeys smoking an equivalent of 30 joints a day began to atrophy and die after just 90 days. Autopsies revealed that the monkeys who had been exposed to the marijuana smoke had more dead brain cells than the control monkeys, who had not been exposed.

Is this proof enough?
does not dead brain cells = dumber?
I believe the brain cell loss was was due to the gas masks being pumped FULL of pot smoke. Deplete brain of oxygen and brain cells die. How do you think those monkeys died?
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Old 10-01-2010, 08:25 AM
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I believe the brain cell loss was was due to the gas masks being pumped FULL of pot smoke. Deplete brain of oxygen and brain cells die. How do you think those monkeys died?
That is actully a conclusion of others who came after and read the report and tried to make light of it. There is no proof that either the gas masking or the pot smokingn is what killed the monkeys. However the monkeys that did smoke pot did have brain dmg and the monkeys that did not showed none and the monkeys that were exposed to a placebo smoke(in the same manner as the pot monkeys) did not die not show brain dmg when they were killed and autopsied

Which could lead one to conclude that the pot smoke contributed to brain cell loss
I did not make the study only cited it. you have problems with the way in which it was done go talk to the Dr. who did it
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