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Old 01-28-2015, 08:06 PM
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Holy hell. There are hundreds of threads with dozens of pages discussing this same issue going back to nearly the start of the server. JUST IMPLEMENT SOME KIND OF TOKEN SPAWN SYSTEM AND BE DONE WITH IT.

It's BLUE. It's 16 YEARS since 1999. Why do people even care that others would get to relive the raid experience? Why do people want to exclude them? If you cared that much, why don't you just go to RED? Let Red be the hardcore server with fighting for spawns and let Blue be about experiencing content cooperatively. If you don't like that solution then make another server called "Green" where there is "cooperative" raiding (with token spawning) and let people choose their own experience.

The fact y'all put this much effort and time into trying to come up with a solution to this super simple problem is mind boggling.
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Old 01-28-2015, 08:15 PM
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And before others start crying about a third server "thinning" the population. Why do you freaking care? You'll still compete against those who want to compete and those are the only people who really matter anyways if we can be honest here. If having somebody who doesn't have the time to track and poopsock inspect you in EC to see your epic and VP gear is so important to you then you've got some serious mental issues.
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Old 01-28-2015, 08:29 PM
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Holy hell. There are hundreds of threads with dozens of pages discussing this same issue going back to nearly the start of the server. JUST IMPLEMENT SOME KIND OF TOKEN SPAWN SYSTEM AND BE DONE WITH IT.

It's BLUE. It's 16 YEARS since 1999. Why do people even care that others would get to relive the raid experience? Why do people want to exclude them? If you cared that much, why don't you just go to RED? Let Red be the hardcore server with fighting for spawns and let Blue be about experiencing content cooperatively. If you don't like that solution then make another server called "Green" where there is "cooperative" raiding (with token spawning) and let people choose their own experience.

The fact y'all put this much effort and time into trying to come up with a solution to this super simple problem is mind boggling.
They are just concerned that someone has an epenis bigger/similar to theirs in size and at the same time worried those with a smaller epenis will grow to the size of the former.
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Old 01-28-2015, 09:07 PM
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JUST IMPLEMENT SOME KIND OF TOKEN SPAWN SYSTEM AND BE DONE WITH IT.

It's BLUE. It's 16 YEARS since 1999.
I vote this.

Then again I barely get to play and I only play for nostalgia purposes, so I don't do a lot of crying about raid lewts.

Also this game is easy, so raid lewts are only important for EC tunneling.
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Old 01-28-2015, 09:21 PM
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Holy hell. There are hundreds of threads with dozens of pages discussing this same issue going back to nearly the start of the server. JUST IMPLEMENT SOME KIND OF TOKEN SPAWN SYSTEM AND BE DONE WITH IT.

It's BLUE. It's 16 YEARS since 1999. Why do people even care that others would get to relive the raid experience? Why do people want to exclude them? If you cared that much, why don't you just go to RED? Let Red be the hardcore server with fighting for spawns and let Blue be about experiencing content cooperatively. If you don't like that solution then make another server called "Green" where there is "cooperative" raiding (with token spawning) and let people choose their own experience.

The fact y'all put this much effort and time into trying to come up with a solution to this super simple problem is mind boggling.
I'd support this so much.

Officers of guilds allowed to purchase spawn tokens to the tune of.. a large amount of pp. Each guild allowed to kill just 1 of each mob per week / 2 weeks / month whatever.

You get your no drop pixels - we deflate the economy, and everyone who wants to do the content can actually do it and 'gear' their characters. Gear for what? more raiding? yay! Never liked the cyclical nature of end game, which is what MMOs have become solely. It's all about that level grind.
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Old 01-28-2015, 09:42 PM
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Alternatively, could provide mixed pathways to achieve raid targets.

1) Buy tokens that cost a lot of platinum. Perhaps these can only be purchased at twice the respawn rate of the target. This would have the benefit of deflating the economy and give people a reason to farm plat other than to buy raid gear from the guilds that would otherwise get the target if the system didn't exist. It wouldn't be unfair to hardcore raiders because at most the casuals will get 1/2 the total targets and at a great cost to them (they'll have to do some kind of "work" to get it by farming platinum).

2) Encourage low numbers in raids by increasing drop rates inversely proportional to the size of the raid. For instance, if you kill Inny with 10 people then you get twice the amount of loot. Set a baseline number of people for each raid target and a equation to represent the drop rate based on the deviation from that baseline. If you kill VS with 50 people then you only get 1 item, for instance. This encourages many small guilds of elite players and rewards them greatly for their skill. The raid encounters would presumably take more time too so it would be harder for any one guild to get to every encounter on a simulated server reset. More competition, more reward for skill, greater access to encounters for more people.

3) Simulate repop and move all raiders participating to random zones, including any alts.
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Old 01-28-2015, 09:43 PM
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Change "WC" to "Kerra Isle" and I am all for this proposal, on the condition that ports and gates are disabled in that zone.

That's right, everyone is going to have to fight their way out through Erudin.
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Old 01-28-2015, 10:18 PM
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If having somebody who doesn't have the time to track and poopsock inspect you in EC to see your epic and VP gear is so important to you then you've got some serious mental issues.
This is how the majority of "hardcore" raiders get any kind of validation in life.

The minority of the "hardcores" need to maintain the scarcity of end game content to pay for their Hot Pockets.
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Old 01-28-2015, 10:46 PM
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Holy hell. There are hundreds of threads with dozens of pages discussing this same issue going back to nearly the start of the server. JUST IMPLEMENT SOME KIND OF TOKEN SPAWN SYSTEM AND BE DONE WITH IT.

It's BLUE. It's 16 YEARS since 1999. Why do people even care that others would get to relive the raid experience? Why do people want to exclude them? If you cared that much, why don't you just go to RED? Let Red be the hardcore server with fighting for spawns and let Blue be about experiencing content cooperatively. If you don't like that solution then make another server called "Green" where there is "cooperative" raiding (with token spawning) and let people choose their own experience.

The fact y'all put this much effort and time into trying to come up with a solution to this super simple problem is mind boggling.
How would you fit this in the game world to make it realistic? Just buying tokens to make magical creatures appear doesn't make game world sense? Whey would Plat spawn a creature in Noratth?


I prefer epic quest to where Plat might be a part of it but not tokens, maybe a magical summoning stone would be the final reward to summon a creature.
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Old 01-28-2015, 10:52 PM
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Daldaen,

Why the change of heart about "not classic"???

http://www.project1999.com/forums/se...2&pp=25&page=4
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