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Old 01-27-2015, 11:52 AM
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Instance on "classic" instead of making the game better.
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Old 01-27-2015, 12:01 PM
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I refresh every 24 seconds when locking down Chardok Royals Hallway. I also happen to never run OOM or have trouble getting started again should I die when some unmentioned cleric think casting Celestial Elixir on me at 20% is sufficient healing.
Just wanted to say thanks for this! Lately I had been using mesmorize when charming. However last night I kept it out even when not and used it as primary while grouped in Droga. Very pleasantly surprised at lowered mana consumption allowing me additional mobility.

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Old 01-27-2015, 12:05 PM
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I just want to point out that the interactive nature of an in game map is completely different than having a map on another monitor or printed out (this is how i did it in 2000) on your desk. Your character is a little "+" in the center. I could navigate through an entire zone without even looking at anything 3D, just by navigating my little "+" through the map that someone else made. I think directions along the lines of "follow the left wall until" is a testament to the difference between no map and an interactive map.

Anyone else ever buy this? EQ Atlas I loved mine. Had lore and points of interest, but it was lost/thrown out one time i moved. Sad.
Nope but I did have a binder of maps I downloaded and printed from EQatlas. Which is where p99wiki got it's zone maps btw.
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Old 01-27-2015, 12:06 PM
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That, in fact, was one of the great challenges. Getting lost in EQ was a dangerous thing and made Norrath a much larger world.
not if you use maps out of game (everyone does)

Since I started playing on p99 I've not got lost once (truly pants shittingly lost i.e. playing in 2000, night blind and lost in gfay) despite the lack of in game map. Why? Wiki maps and sense heading bindings. Your point is moot.

Again I urge you to keep in mind: I'm not trying to get maps brought back, I just want to point out the attitude people carry here in regards to simple things like a map and compass is absolutely absurd
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Old 01-27-2015, 12:09 PM
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We're all aware that you don't get a cursor to follow your character, but it does not make the game itself any easier, and that right there is what I cannot stand.
What is your definition of easier? Because with the commonly accepted definition you keep misusing the word.
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Old 01-27-2015, 12:13 PM
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No sir, I'm fairly certain I'm not. Maps just dont make games easier, plain and simple.

No night blindness definitely makes the game easier. Being able to see the rest of the world while medding also makes the game easier.

It's the simple things like the way a mob resisting one cast can spell the difference between a ding and a death, painfully slow hp/mana regen, and just the general unforgiving nature of the game mechanics that spell out a challenge.. NOT whether or not I can hit a button and bring up maps (Protip: I can do this anyway with the steam overlay)
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Old 01-27-2015, 12:13 PM
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not if you use maps out of game (everyone does)

Since I started playing on p99 I've not got lost once (truly pants shittingly lost i.e. playing in 2000, night blind and lost in gfay) despite the lack of in game map. Why? Wiki maps and sense heading bindings. Your point is moot.

Again I urge you to keep in mind: I'm not trying to get maps brought back, I just want to point out the attitude people carry here in regards to simplethings like a map and compass is absolutely incredulous.
Not really moot. There's a difference between looking at a map, using Sense Heading, /loc and landmarks to determine where you are and having a HUD with an arrow representing exactly where you are and where you are facing. In one scenario you're told where you are, the other you still have to figure it out for yourself.

But you need to be right, so I digress, you are absolutely 100% right.
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Old 01-27-2015, 12:15 PM
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Just wanted to say thanks for this! Lately I had been using mesmorize when charming. However last night I kept it out even when not and used it as primary while grouped in Droga. Very pleasantly surprised at lowered mana consumption allowing me additional mobility.

Respectfully,
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Old 01-27-2015, 12:17 PM
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Not really moot. There's a difference between looking at a map, using Sense Heading, /loc and landmarks to determine where you are and having a HUD with an arrow representing exactly where you are and where you are facing. In one scenario you're told where you are, the other you still have to figure it out for yourself.

But you need to be right, so I digress, you are absolutely 100% right.
/loc is not required. I've never become proficient with the location system and I get around quite nicely. Basically they removed 2 wholly unnecessary steps (discerning /loc, cross referencing with external map) with the addition of the in game map. That's it. It basically saves time and a small (even minute) amount of effort.. aka people spend more time in game, playing, rather than treating it as a chore or a project they must do research on before undertaking. To say removing that this made the game effectively more challenging is just silly.
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Old 01-27-2015, 12:20 PM
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Please do not overinflate his ego. It's in danger of exploding already.
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