So monks got nerfed overall then.

[Man0warr]

Mobs got buffed. I don't understand how this is a nerf to melee classes. It's an absolute nerf to everyone, which is good because we were fucking destroying this stuff. If anything I think tanks will get more love; before you could have fucking druids tank if your shaman was good.

I think some how players got nerfed too, I have never hit for 2 damage with a 17 damage offhand at level 60 - I don't think that is correct.

[SamwiseRed]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think some how players got nerfed too, I have never hit for 2 damage with a 17 damage offhand at level 60 - I don't think that is correct.

i guess you never missed either?

ive 500+ dmg nukes land for 2 or 3 pts of dmg. feels good.

[hammertime7795]

Originally Posted by falendar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

even without it max bsing, it is still a large part of their dps.

Not even close to true

[douglas1999]

I think monks can still solo pretty good in Ocean of Tears. There are definitely some soloable mobs for monks in the Ocean of Tears I hear.

[fastboy21]

Originally Posted by maestrom [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bard melee DPS is negligible so you don't really have to worry about attacking if you don't want to. Bards can move while casting so you never really get interrupted. Bards have the best move speed buff in the game. Lambent armor just looks cool. People who play bards are taller, better looking, and make more money irl than people who play other classes. Bards -never- have to med.

Bards rule. Enchanters drool.

Edit: Bards only die when they're not being careful (which should be often. If you wanna play it safe, play a necro). Chanters die even when they're being careful, which is stupid.

awesome.

[fastboy21]

Originally Posted by wycca [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I played a monk on live, and there's a reason that even with epic, cof, and a fungi, that I stuck to soloing LDC's and bank guards in qeynos and had an inventory full of bandages. Not sure where monks on p99 got the idea that they could solo all day, let alone on kunark mobs and that it was classic. I distinctly remember thinking I was a low-hp warrior when leveling pre-kunark - the major advantage being mend and fd - weapons in kunark helped, but monks were not the crazy soloing machines they've been on p99 at all. If they had been, everyone on live would have been playing them and they'd be nerfed into oblivion. As it was, it took Luclin gear/AA and some flimsy ramp tank scenarios to get a nerf bat...fix sounds like it made things more classic. There's a reason there weren't a ton of monks back in the day.

its just been so long on p99...monks have always been so powerful here.

[indiscriminate_hater]

Originally Posted by Rayzor84 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anyone else able to weigh in on chanter vs bard? Pros and cons?

bards are the kings of outdoor zones, enchanters the kings of indoor zones. bards can solo anything up to level 50 once they hit level 28, but enchanters are one of only 2 classes that can solo most 55+ mobs.

still, i'm really surprised more people haven't leveled up a bard to 54 just for the sheer versatility of the class. you can level a bard up to 54 in 1-2 weeks, and if you have a buddy use that to level a druid up to mid 50s in 1-2 weeks (before the low-hp nerf this whole process would take a week, and you'd have 2 high-level bards). within a month of starting from scratch on this server you can be making tens of thousands of platinum per day. *shrug*

also, side note: it's going to be funny watching people complain that bards were the first to lock down the holgresh camp in wakening lands when velious finally drops, just by virtue of being able to outrun the competition

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Manowar

I think some how players got nerfed too, I have never hit for 2 damage with a 17 damage offhand at level 60 - I don't think that is correct.

[Sun Oct 26 17:21:50 2014] You crush an essence harvester for 2 points of damage.
[Sun Oct 26 17:21:57 2014] You crush an essence harvester for 2 points of damage.
[Sun Oct 26 17:22:14 2014] You crush an essence harvester for 2 points of damage.
[Sun Oct 26 17:22:40 2014] You crush an essence carrier for 2 points of damage.
[Sun Oct 26 17:22:50 2014] You crush an essence carrier for 2 points of damage.
[Sun Oct 26 17:25:41 2014] You crush an essence carrier for 2 points of damage.
[Sun Oct 26 17:26:48 2014] You crush an essence tamer for 2 points of damage.
[Sun Oct 26 17:28:53 2014] You crush an essence tamer for 2 points of damage.
[Sun Oct 26 17:31:32 2014] You crush a soul carrier for 2 points of damage.
[Sun Oct 26 17:31:49 2014] You crush a soul carrier for 2 points of damage.
[Sun Oct 26 17:36:25 2014] You crush Keeper of Souls for 2 points of damage.
[Sun Oct 26 17:36:52 2014] You crush Keeper of Souls for 2 points of damage.
[Sun Oct 26 17:36:57 2014] You crush Keeper of Souls for 2 points of damage.
[Sun Oct 26 17:43:17 2014] You crush a spiroc vanquisher for 2 points of damage.
[Sun Oct 26 17:43:45 2014] You crush a spiroc vanquisher for 2 points of damage.
[Sun Oct 26 17:45:25 2014] You crush a spiroc arbiter for 2 points of damage.
[Sun Oct 26 18:38:31 2014] You crush The Spiroc Lord for 2 points of damage.
[Sun Oct 26 18:38:45 2014] You crush The Spiroc Lord for 2 points of damage.
[Sun Oct 26 18:55:11 2014] You crush a fatestealer drake for 2 points of damage.
[Sun Oct 26 18:55:47 2014] You crush a fatestealer drake for 2 points of damage.
[Sun Oct 26 20:00:01 2014] You crush Sister of the Spire for 2 points of damage.
[Sun Oct 26 20:09:39 2014] You crush Sister of the Spire for 2 points of damage.
[Sun Oct 26 20:34:51 2014] You crush Eye of Veeshan for 2 points of damage.
[Sun Oct 26 21:44:47 2014] You crush Overseer of Air for 2 points of damage.
[Sun Oct 26 21:45:00 2014] You crush Overseer of Air for 2 points of damage.
[Sun Oct 26 21:45:19 2014] You crush Overseer of Air for 2 points of damage.

From one raid. Unless I was utterly facepalming and using my mosscovered twig in sky.

[fiveeauxfour]

Monks only do 2 dmg per hit now! The end is nigh! Reroll!

[Mandalore93]

ITT: Pleib class goes back to its rightful place.

Weighing in on the bard stuff, chanters will make better money at sixty if they're good at soloing. If not even a bad bard can make consistent money with power leveling. Although I've always wondered if a top end bard could solo stuff with howling cutlass/harmonic dagger while spamming trak bp and using a charmed pet.