Can someone accurately explain GameGate in a sentence?

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what is insane to me is she is complaning about games.. the gamergate complane about HER... like

Evidence please.

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

whats it to you if she complanes about toys, YOU didnt make them... ironcially the people that made them agree with her...

Evidence please.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So she's giving an opinion and some of the people she's criticizing don't like it. I fail to see a scandal here.

If they just "didn't like it" there would be no scandal. The reason this has gotten so much press is that, rather than making rational arguments against a point of view they don't like, the GamerGate crowd (or rather a more radical subset of them) decided to make very scary rape and death threats against people who didn't share their point of view. One of them actually threatened to shoot up a school because someone they didn't like was going to speak there; I consider that fairly "scandalous".

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

We are talking about literal professional victims here.

They are even fighting over who is the most oppressed as we speak.
[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is a reason they are called "literally who" they don't matter. The ones who matter are the ones who are in power actually going along with the narratives set by the pro victims.
These are the people who matter. These are the ones who GG is actively against.
[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

(We have banned you from /r/gamergate and /r/antigamergate. We did not do this because you are pro-#GamerGate, we did this because you, like most white transwomen, show a fundamental lack of gratitude for your allies on the left who have campaigned for social justice for decades.

We are the only reason you have any civil rights, we are the reason you have never been thrown into an asylum for your gender identity, and we are the reason you have not been subjected to the pseudo-scientific reparative therapies of the 20th century. We did all this for you, and yet you support the reactionaries who would love to swing you from a lamp post on their fabled "day of the rope."

You, as a transwoman, are indebted to us, and the very least you could have done would have been to abstain from this ugly flame war until it passed. Instead, you have decided to reinforce the tokenism of the reactionaries by endorsing them and by participating in their forums.

You may not be our shield, but you are our property. We own you. Your very existence is protected by the institutions and laws we have made for you. Never forget this, and in the future, show some fucking gratitude.)[http://www.reddit.com/message/messages/2hzmeg]

[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If they just "didn't like it" there would be no scandal. The reason this has gotten so much press is that, rather than making rational arguments against a point of view they don't like, the GamerGate crowd (or rather a more radical subset of them) decided to make very scary rape and death threats against people who didn't share their point of view. One of them actually threatened to shoot up a school because someone they didn't like was going to speak there; I consider that fairly "scandalous".

Prove that any of them are linked to GamerGate. I dare you. You guarantee yourself a spot on MSNBC/CNN if you can put together actual evidence.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
This was supposed to be included 2 posts up. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Aviann]

Somebody needs to get laid... Specifically these women. Send them all my way, Kagatob. Justice will prevail.

I'll also offer them cooking lessons as a side project, but they will have to pay money for my time.

[loramin]

Right, so in what you just posted, where's the part that makes it ok to threaten people with rape and death?

I think there are a lot of terrible people in this world, and I'd love to see terrible things happen to them. A significant percentage of the Israeli government, for instance. Or the Egyptian government. Actually most governments.

But you won't see me wasting money on postage to Netanyahu, because you can't have a society where everyone who feels wronged goes around threatening other people with rape or death. Even the really shitty people who may deserve it.

Or maybe you can, but I certainly don't want to live in that society.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by KagatobLuvsAnimu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Prove that any of them are linked to GamerGate. I dare you. You guarantee yourself a spot on MSNBC/CNN if you can put together actual evidence.

That's not the issue: the issue is that the GamerGate community hasn't disavowed them. To the contrary, many members of the community have defended them. I won't blame an entire group for the actions of a few members, but I will blame that group when they support their problematic members.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, at some point we're going to get equality in video games right? Books used to be exclusively for men (hell, anything important in society used to be exclusively for men), but that changed over time right?

The question is just, will it be 5 years, 10 years, 20 years? In a sense that's what this entire battle is about: one side is trying to make it happen faster and the other side is trying to put off the inevitable as long as possible.

This is patently false. NOBODY is trying to put off equality in video games. That's a dumb fucking statement. I am all for someone producing something women like and will buy in the millions and play and be happy and develop a real market for. Female equality in video games can already be obtained, if enough females were interested in doing so. (Societal problem not a "gamer" problem). It is easier its ever been to produce a game. Hell I see RPG maker type games being sold in the 10-15 dollar range every day, and you barely have to script those motherfuckers. (Last Dream is great ya'll). The market for women seems to fall squarely into the "phone games" square right now. Basically things that had mechanics like NES/Puzzle games. That's not to say that ALL women are like this, cause that's a dumb fucking generalization. The games are where the market takes them. By all means women, buy more games that you like. Don't blame men for playing a game as a stripper witch who's hair is a costume and fights people with a stripper pole, or a bitch who cuts zombies with a chainsaw.


Build something, build a following by producing quality. Invest in yourself, and produce something new and worthwhile that speaks to people. Stop fucking complaining that its unfair and people are trying to hold you down. Invest in a MBA, C# or hell even some python. Examine what works in soundtrack composition. Learn about 3 act structures and invest in your writing. Do something that SPEAKS to others for fucks sake. Bitching about in equality and unequal representation is fine when there aren't avenues for you to "Git Gud". I doubt there is one mid range development firm that would patently dismiss any female with qualifications and a passion for a genre. The old hand (Japanese) firms....maybe. Bioware, Blizzard, *ugh* Ubisoft, started from nothing, didn't get handed shit, and eventually cashed out and got ruined by publishers...the American dream

It's motherfucking sad that HIDEO KOJIMA and his INFINITE problems with women can build better, more fully realized female characters than anyone I have seen. (EVA and The Boss, MGS3) And that motherfucker put a bomb in a bitches vagina.

Have you played the new Tomb Raider? That bitch was a plant except when she climbed that tower, and when she got that fucking grenade launcher.

[radditsu]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPw-3e_pzqU


Also, for the record, Anita Sarkeziwhathefuckever, can say what ever she wants about the industry and the genre. It's just like...her opinion..man. But isn't she the woman who raised 150k in kickstarter and produced like 3 videos with tenuous research on the subject? Or is that another idiot?

150k should get you at least a start in regards to a vetted, fact filled, study on the issues with the industry. Not calling games out because strippers exist and can be shot. Strippers can be shot like half a mile away from my house too. I don't see guns akimbo at the Diamond's Club everynight.