TLDR Brainstorming Red99's future and why Red is not Blue

[Pikrib]

Originally Posted by Stasis01 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Doors, Eslade, Gaffin 7.0, harnold, Haynar, HippoNipple, indiscriminate_hater, p99mina, Pikrib, SamwiseRed

Anyone who plays here will realise how funny this is.

I think you have a problem with anyone who doesn't agree with you. I did box on rallos zek back in the day. That doesn't mean I would want to have it allowed here. Sorry Stasis I think variance and boxing would be bad for the server, but thats how I feel. Deal with it.

Try convincing me otherwise instead of attacking everyone that disagrees with ya. Maybe you could get more peeps on your side.

My advice is to go out and try to help some nebies instead of making more posts in which you just anger people.

[Stasis01]

Originally Posted by Gaffin 7.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

when i raided with azrael or nilly you didnt even play

i think i remember derub making a thread just for you to post all your rants in you went so bat fucking crazy

just like in this thread

yikes have fun

Kk cya, won't remember/miss/think of you.

[Stasis01]

Originally Posted by Pikrib [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think you have a problem with anyone who doesn't agree with you. I did box on rallos zek back in the day. That doesn't mean I would want to have it allowed here. Sorry Stasis I think variance and boxing would be bad for the server, but thats how I feel. Deal with it.

Try convincing me otherwise instead of attacking everyone that disagrees with ya. Maybe you could get more peeps on your side.

My advice is to go out and try to help some nebies instead of making more posts in which you just anger people.

I don't want more people on my side, or think I am that valuable to convince people.

I respect your opinion because you play here, and won't attack you.

I save that for the big mouth no shows.

Pras Pikrib.

[heartbrand]

I think there are some issues with Boxing, but I think they are heavily outweighed by the reasons for it. I also believe boxing would be a huge negative on BLUE, where you can monopolize pve cash camps with zero fear of PVP, at the detriment of actual players, something not possible on Red99. Almost all of the reasons against boxing simply don't apply to Red99.

If you read posts on the blue forums about red99, the overwhelming complaint is it feels empty here and the low pop. That people would be willing to try it out if there were more people. Boxing allows people to hit the ground running at their own pace, and quickly meet up with others doing the same. Shrug.

[Stasis01]

And I mean maybe your right Pikrib, all we need is people to be roaming around helping new players level... instead of just giving them a tool to do it themselves.

All I see are -

Few EXP grps.

Few 60 camps being done.

Very little non KC pvp.

No economy.

Lowbies getting discouraged.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Stasis01 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I save that for the big mouth prospective returning players.

Come on back Sam.

[Stasis01]

Nirgon I was gona reply to your post but I haven't seen you since Guk 3 years ago when you blew ur mana pool on Billy a dark elf warrior with a shield and Gongshow raged on you.

Move along n00b.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Boxing = everyone you fight is gonna have a full stack of buffs before they fight you.

I don't care for what it does to support classes and how it realllly fucks over people that don't have a "throw away" enchanter/cleric to buff themselves.

However, a brief period of boxing might see more people making it out of newbie zones.

I know Rogean and company don't like spending their time of "half measures" or "temporary solutions" but trying something like this for a month or two could be a good thing to increase pop. If it doesn't help the actual pop (other than #'s being higher due to boxes logged in?) kill it? Most computers couldn't handle boxing iirc and it was only around the time of the Velious client I saw it a bit more wide spread.

Having 400 pop would probably be better as 2 guilds could "zerg" (60 man raid force) which would be aight. Right now having 215 pop and 40-50 (honestly, a reasonable progression classic/velious raid force on the higher side) on any side is kinda bad :P.

I'd wait for all the resist/dispel fixes etc to make a "welcome back" + brief period of boxing (and maybe legacy items dropping again) work. Ain't gonna crusade 4 it, just a thought.



Would you like him back tho? Shire is good for the box imo. You got 6 PD robes or somethin' pal, how bout a happy face?

Yes. This is what I would agree with. "Relaunch" with hype and events, moderate OOC or limit it to every 5 minutes or something, moderate forums, and then allow boxing for 1-2 months. This will allow new people to check things out, instantly be able to make groups since you can box essential classes, and just get immersed right away. Once we hit a nice stable pop of 300~ which I think is 100% obtainable here, then sure, remove it.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Stasis01 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And I mean maybe your right Pikrib, all we need is people to be roaming around helping new players level... instead of just giving them a tool to do it themselves.

All I see are -

Few EXP grps.

Few 60 camps being done.

Very little non KC pvp.

No economy.

Lowbies getting discouraged.

It isn't viable nor is it desirable for the server to depend on level 60 clerics and druids babysitting people in Unrest. It's not even particularly fun for the person benefiting from the act of random kindness. People want to get immersed and experience classic EQ, which means grouping.

[heartbrand]

Also, the whole "people will run around raid buffed" thing, already fuckin happens WITHOUT boxing. Everyone logs on the Shaman box or Cleric box or Chanter box to buff everyone up before the zone hugging pvp fight.