RIP Robin Williams

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Tenlaar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except it is.

The person that takes their life is the only one who will never have to live with that choice.

[Gaffin 7.0]

pretty sure he did seek help, it doesnt cure you 100 % just makes you feel better, rehab and all, we have no idea what he was mentally going through and it must have been alot, crazy pills just make it worse over time and are for only the really insane people who cant even do anything without harming others without them

[Tenlaar]

Originally Posted by GnashingOfTeeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok, I challenge you. Walk in to your group of close family if you have one (no insult intended if you do not) ask them how they would truly feel if you committed suicide.

Spend and hour, reflect on their reactions, and then decide.

I don't have to, I've had people commit and attempt suicide as well. You do not have a unique perspective on the issue.

I could say the same to you, though. Go ask a group of your close family how long they would expect you to continue living in mental or physical anguish, how long they would place more importance on themselves than the fact that you are unhappy and in pain.

[Tenlaar]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The person that takes their life is the only one who will never have to live with that choice.

And the only person who would have to continue to live their shitty, unhappy life that they don't want any more if they stick around because some other people are afraid to deal with loss and/or unable to accept that people come and go in life and it is outside of their control.

[Gaffin 7.0]

Originally Posted by Tenlaar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't have to, I've had people commit and attempt suicide as well. You do not have a unique perspective on the issue.

I could say the same to you, though. Go ask a group of your close family how long they would expect you to continue living in mental or physical anguish, how long they would place more importance on themselves than the fact that you are unhappy and in pain.

Yep

[GnashingOfTeeth]

Originally Posted by Tenlaar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And the only person who would have to continue to live their shitty, unhappy life that they don't want any more if they stick around because some other people are afraid to deal with loss and/or unable to accept that people come and go in life and it is outside of their control.

Wish ya luck bro, like I said, 2 different planes of existence.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Tenlaar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And the only person who would have to continue to live their shitty, unhappy life that they don't want any more if they stick around because some other people are afraid to deal with loss and/or unable to accept that people come and go in life and it is outside of their control.

So they just need to suck it up? I'm not saying I know what everyone who commits suicide is going through, and lord knows this world is just too much for some people to deal with. But you're being extremely one sided in your viewpoint. It ruins peoples lives just as much, and sometimes more so, as any other form of death. Just because so.eone made the choice to kill themselves doesn't just magically remove the pain of losing a loved one. In most cases it makes it that much worse because immediate family members feel extreme guilt over not bring able to see it coming and help. It really just causes a cycle of depression and guilt.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

I would like to point out that more likely than not, Robin Williams's family will eventually emotionally recover from their loss. Robin Williams himself was clearly not recovering from his ailment despite doing everything in his power to get help. To say that ending his life was selfish is not only wrong but it's a slap in the face to his family who will eventually come to terms with the fact that he is now at peace and that's all that there is.

[Sidelle]

Originally Posted by GnashingOfTeeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thus seek help, especially from those close to you if you can. Hopefully they will see your need and pain.

Often, the people closest to the depressed person will become desensitized after dealing with it for years and years. It's sad but understandable but at that point it's not possible to get any real support from family. Most of them will eventually put their heads in the sand and pretend everything is fine because they want it to be.

That, in addition to not finding a doctor that can effectively treat an individual's brain chemistry issues, will definitely cause a deeper feeling of hopelessness. That's when they start wishing to die. A person considering suicide will often rationalize that their loved ones are better off without them.

Ultimately, they end up killing two birds with one stone. Ending their own pain and ending their family's pain too (in the long run). I believe they see that as being the lesser of two evils, since it creates an actual ending to it all. The initial pain will hurt but will be nowhere near the pain of watching a person with mental illness suffer til the day they die over years and years.

I'm not saying it's the right thing to do but I can understand why people do it.

[Aviann]

Although I 90% agree with Gnashing, my only point against (and I have always felt this way), is that family and friends sometimes need to quit talking and start showing the love instead. Take it from experience. Others need to learn a bit more respect.