Didn't Derubael and other GM's agree something was needed for end game?

[Gaanon]

Are you for real kid get the fuck out of here.

[Sheriff]

Fact: Nihilum recruits anyone with a pulse, gears them, levels them, protects them in certain zones. Nihilum will be ready to kill Velious mobs that require a ridiculous amount of manpower, something not required now. Nihilum is very blue and has the standard number of toxic shit bags one would expect from a 15 year un policed elf sim. Nihilum has a clique core of players. Nihilum is winning raid content due to numbers.

Fact: Azrael split into two guilds. Azrael is better at pvp when prepared. Azrael has the standard number of toxic shit bags one would expect from a 15 year un policed elf sim. Azrael has a cliquey core of players. Azrael politics for an advantage. Azrael grows slower becuase it only takes in "core" players that meet "minimum requirements" Azrael is ready to snipe mobs and force pvp skirmishes. Azrael core will never join Nihilum.

The two conflicts are recruiting and mission. One likes small groups and pvp. One likes large numbers and pve. Unfortunately, Velious could be hard on Azrael if they want to compete from raid mobs. Also, the more pvp targets to fight makes it hard to contest outside of vp where numbers are limited to who has a key. Either way it comes down to what you want and what you want to be good at. You can't be both the best pve and pvp guild.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Sheriff [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fact: Nihilum recruits anyone with a pulse, gears them, levels them, protects them in certain zones. Nihilum will be ready to kill Velious mobs that require a ridiculous amount of manpower, something not required now. Nihilum is very blue and has the standard number of toxic shit bags one would expect from a 15 year un policed elf sim. Nihilum has a clique core of players. Nihilum is winning raid content due to numbers.

Fact: Azrael split into two guilds. Azrael is better at pvp when prepared. Azrael has the standard number of toxic shit bags one would expect from a 15 year un policed elf sim. Azrael has a cliquey core of players. Azrael politics for an advantage. Azrael grows slower becuase it only takes in "core" players that meet "minimum requirements" Azrael is ready to snipe mobs and force pvp skirmishes. Azrael core will never join Nihilum.

The two conflicts are recruiting and mission. One likes small groups and pvp. One likes large numbers and pve. Unfortunately, Velious could be hard on Azrael if they want to compete from raid mobs. Also, the more pvp targets to fight makes it hard to contest outside of vp where numbers are limited to who has a key. Either way it comes down to what you want and what you want to be good at. You can't be both the best pve and pvp guild.

I'm glad you wrote this. It sounds like Azrael is playing the wrong Video Game. You've basically stated "Azrael loves football, but wants to use only 3 players on their team, no pads, and remove kicking from the game." I suggest one of the MANY MMO's more PVP focused that have small guilds, and where you can instantly queue for fun and FAIR PVP action.

[Gaanon]

Oh god I really am leaving.

But how Azrael decides to play is irrelevant and definitely does not prevent guilds from starting/contesting !

In fact, having Azrael makes sniping mobs possible with Sim Repops, as you know first hand HB - you know who Lite and Az want to fight, they aren't worried about griefing guilds like RD off the box.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Gaanon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh god I really am leaving.

But how Azrael decides to play is irrelevant and definitely does not prevent guilds from starting/contesting !

How is it irrelevant? You essentially don't like EverQuest, so why are you here crying about changing how it is played on a project aimed at EMULATING CLASSIC EVERQUEST. Lol?

[Sheriff]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How is it irrelevant? You essentially don't like EverQuest, so why are you here crying about changing how it is played on a project aimed at EMULATING CLASSIC EVERQUEST. Lol?

If you mean emulate classic as it had the same names and character models.

[Gaanon]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How is it irrelevant? You essentially don't like EverQuest, so why are you here crying about changing how it is played on a project aimed at EMULATING CLASSIC EVERQUEST. Lol?

HB : Players can change this place

Me : Why hasn't anyone stuck around to contest in 3 years

HB : Because of Azrael and I hate Lite

Me : UGH

[Sheriff]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm glad you wrote this. It sounds like Azrael is playing the wrong Video Game. You've basically stated "Azrael loves football, but wants to use only 3 players on their team, no pads, and remove kicking from the game." I suggest one of the MANY MMO's more PVP focused that have small guilds, and where you can instantly queue for fun and FAIR PVP action.

I'm saying Nihilum wants to play flag football and Azrael wants to play tackle. Only difference is Azrael fields 5 nflers vrs and entire powderpuff league. Regardless play the game you want pvp or pve. It's hard to pvp when you can't trust other people in your guild and it's easy to pve when you from 50 to kill a mob that goes down to 15.

[Sheriff]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm glad you wrote this. It sounds like Azrael is playing the wrong Video Game. You've basically stated "Azrael loves football, but wants to use only 3 players on their team, no pads, and remove kicking from the game." I suggest one of the MANY MMO's more PVP focused that have small guilds, and where you can instantly queue for fun and FAIR PVP action.

Btw. Don't put words in my mouth, use your own words.

[R Flair]

Originally Posted by Sheriff [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fact: Azrael is better at pvp when prepared...

Strange, I spent a good portion of the last week watching r99 best of the best videos and noticed Nihilum came out on top in almost every one. I even saw 3 or 4 of the BotB won on nihilum alt characters like the wizard, druid and necro.

Originally Posted by Sheriff [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fact: Azrael thinks they're better at pvp when prepared and lets everyone know it...

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