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Old 01-28-2014, 05:19 PM
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I GREATLY disagree with your 250 pop assessment. If anything, red may dip even further as people flock to blue. On blue, there's plenty of content to satiate a shit load of players in Velious. On red, all it takes is one group with faction to completely cock block and shit on people farming Kael arena / halls of testing, etc., etc. The massive amounts of grief possible in Velious will scare off all but the most bearded of necks.

p.s.: this was predicted and already covered by the CLASSIC rallos zek PNP which forbade the engagement in pvp of another raid force, if you're engaging force was insufficient to kill the mob you were cock blocking
you notice you had 70 now ur down to 30, the atmosphere in the guild is not conductive to progress. azrael is toxic as fuck.
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Old 01-28-2014, 05:23 PM
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you notice you had 70 now ur down to 30, the atmosphere in the guild is not conductive to progress. azrael is toxic as fuck.
I get that you're incredibly butt hurt by the actions of a few individuals. However, we still regularly have close to 50 people for our scheduled nightly raids. Lite barely plays. No one has been "toxic." You talk about loot and what not, but yet 90% of all loot has gone to Red Dawn players, though there is no real distinction anymore as we have merged under one flag. We're all on the same team. Those who are playing are committed to our team, and understand we're only as strong as our weakest player. I get that you like to embellish and fabricate agatha stories for enjoyment, but there really is not an ounce of truth to anything you stated. I control the DKP system, the website, the scheduling of raids, administration of guild such as who is invited or booted, etc., etc. The buck stops with me. You can claim there's a secret cabal or what not, but it couldn't be farther from the truth. Also, please stop talking about how Azrael is toxic when half of Azrael is currently tagged Nihilum. Thanks!
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Old 01-28-2014, 05:25 PM
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I GREATLY disagree with your 250 pop assessment. If anything, red may dip even further as people flock to blue. On blue, there's plenty of content to satiate a shit load of players in Velious. On red, all it takes is one group with faction to completely cock block and shit on people farming Kael arena / halls of testing, etc., etc. The massive amounts of grief possible in Velious will scare off all but the most bearded of necks.

p.s.: this was predicted and already covered by the CLASSIC rallos zek PNP which forbade the engagement in pvp of another raid force, if you're engaging force was insufficient to kill the mob you were cock blocking
There are a lot of 55+ characters sitting dormant. I doubt anyone is coming back to grind up on a low exp rate server when they have a perfectly good high level character sitting on red. I just don't see how adding content is going to cause people to leave red, maybe I'm wrong.
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Old 01-28-2014, 05:27 PM
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There are a lot of 55+ characters sitting dormant. I doubt anyone is coming back to grind up on a low exp rate server when they have a perfectly good high level character sitting on red. I just don't see how adding content is going to cause people to leave red, maybe I'm wrong.
Because adding content really only helps one guild on red99, Nihilum. If you're not Nihilum, it really doesn't do a whole lot. Yes, I get that Red Dawn will get some more mobs in Velious, but the amount of them is greatly exaggerated, and if Nihilum wants to, they can probably still cockblock about 85% of all content in the game with ease. This was the exact same scenario with Kunark, where Ender and Arzak came to these boards with prophecies of 200+ pop for Kunark. Yet it never occurred. The pop didn't even really go up significantly [a point brought up on Nihilum's internal forums which you can read for yourself].
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Old 01-28-2014, 05:35 PM
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Because adding content really only helps one guild on red99, Nihilum. If you're not Nihilum, it really doesn't do a whole lot. Yes, I get that Red Dawn will get some more mobs in Velious, but the amount of them is greatly exaggerated, and if Nihilum wants to, they can probably still cockblock about 85% of all content in the game with ease. This was the exact same scenario with Kunark, where Ender and Arzak came to these boards with prophecies of 200+ pop for Kunark. Yet it never occurred. The pop didn't even really go up significantly [a point brought up on Nihilum's internal forums which you can read for yourself].
15% of 40 (rough estimate on raid targets) is a lot more than 0% of 20 (or however many raid targets there are now).

Plus there is a TON of 2 group type shit. Plus a ton of quests that give good gear. Also, Kunark will be more open outside of VP, and maybe even VP will be open sometimes.
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15% of 40 (rough estimate on raid targets) is a lot more than 0% of 20 (or however many raid targets there are now).

Plus there is a TON of 2 group type shit. Plus a ton of quests that give good gear. Also, Kunark will be more open outside of VP, and maybe even VP will be open sometimes.
Unfortunately, a lot of the "2 group shit" such as skyshrine armor, etc., will likely be perma locked down for the first six months of Velious. I get what you're saying, but I think it's GREATLY overstated the amount of content opened up to tier 2 guilds in Velious.
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p.s.: this was predicted and already covered by the CLASSIC rallos zek PNP which forbade the engagement in pvp of another raid force, if you're engaging force was insufficient to kill the mob you were cock blocking
This PNP will probably have to be implemented here for the reasons you have given.
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Old 01-28-2014, 05:12 PM
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Old 01-28-2014, 05:22 PM
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You guys had your shot at repops like twice now when the server reset and nihilum wasn't on the ball and you guys could have easily had a good head start but you didn't take advantage of the situation. As Agatha said it already it doesn't matter if variance is added or not, you would not be able to cut it. EQ is from 1999 and to here will still be a poopsock neckbearding game. You have a job, Cant make a 3am, 6am, 9am raid? Well that sucks for you, People back in 99-current COULDNT DO THAT EITHER only some could. The fact is you have more of those hardcore neckbeard players bottled up playing on one server then any of the EQlive PVP servers EVER did.

Go play World of Warcraft or some instanced game where you guys can have your saturday afternoon instanced raids where you all have time off from work or RL/family obligations. This is as classic as it gets, neckbeards who can login whenever/wherever get it done.
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You guys had your shot at repops like twice now when the server reset and nihilum wasn't on the ball and you guys could have easily had a good head start but you didn't take advantage of the situation. As Agatha said it already it doesn't matter if variance is added or not, you would not be able to cut it. EQ is from 1999 and to here will still be a poopsock neckbearding game. You have a job, Cant make a 3am, 6am, 9am raid? Well that sucks for you, People back in 99-current COULDNT DO THAT EITHER only some could. The fact is you have more of those hardcore neckbeard players bottled up playing on one server then any of the EQlive PVP servers EVER did.

Go play World of Warcraft or some instanced game where you guys can have your saturday afternoon instanced raids where you all have time off from work or RL/family obligations. This is as classic as it gets, neckbeards who can login whenever/wherever get it done.
Again, you probably wouldn't know this as you were most likely still in kindergarten back in 99, but mobs were not routinely killed @ 6am on live. We slayed many a dragon and god back in 99, and it was 9pm at night, not 9am in the morning. Thanks though!

p.s., the current server ruleset that allows the routine slaying of all mobs once a week in a 3 hour timespan is far closer to a WoW type gameplay than simulated repops.
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