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[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Unless CT is up and 80% of the zone is being run around in a massive train kite of clusterfuckery, in which case you should be fine moving clockwise around the zone to get to a more safe spot.



ftfy

Since your first few comments I won't refute. I mean... who can refute a less than 3.

But this one, meh. I am unsure of what transpired with the A-Team's kill as I wasn't there. But I got the impression that the 80% of the zone kite wasn't started or even close to 80% by the time they were setup at West-Wall?

Regardless the onus of responsibility in kiting, if it were to be allowed, would be solely on the kiter. Just because kiting through Area X is more convenient for them doesn't mean they are allowed to train through the zone in and kill anyone who would happen to zone in. Your raid strategy shouldn't make a zone completely unplayable unless you are planning on consuming (killing) that content.

If I were to kite around all of Unrest to slowly kill Garanel then gate out, I think some issue would be taken...

True that at being aware of the situation. But still down with kiting entire zones of trash. Ron Paul will construct a time machine, go back to 2012 and win. Also legalize it.

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So first guild to get 2 people in the zone engaging a mob has X hours to kill CT?

X minutes. Treat dragging ass while clearing akin to stall kiting. Treat wiping while clearing as a raid encounter wipe.

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by baalzy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First in force didn't really work cause it led to the dreaded poopsock. Each guild would race to get 15 in force in the zone and sit there longer then any other guild.

Not first in force, something similar but different though.

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by Kagatob

X minutes. Treat dragging ass while clearing akin to stall kiting. Treat wiping while clearing as a raid encounter wipe.

So to answer my question, yes, 2 people can claim all of fear, CT, and Draco, just by engaging a single mob, and then wait for the rest of their force to arrive and clear everything out, with taking too long being clearly defined as 'dragging ass'.

Since everyone puts up 2 trackers in Fear to watch for CT and Draco pops, once those mobs spawn its a race to see who can poke the first fright finger and claim the zone.

This sounds like a bad idea.

Originally Posted by baalzy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First in force didn't really work cause it led to the dreaded poopsock. Each guild would race to get 15 in force in the zone and sit there longer then any other guild.

He knows. His first in force idea that he touted as a miracle solution to the problems plaguing the raid scene got ripped to shreds in this thread:

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...wait+lifeguard

[CodyF86]

Lol you guys are sucking me in to the dark sidez!!! nuuu!!!!

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[Kagatob]

I'm just agreeing with the bulk of the voices in the thread that clearing the zone would be preferable to kiting it. You've made it clear that you prefer kiting so I don't expect you to agree with any alternative.

@your last comment. U mad?

[Triangle]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bunch of TMO propaganda...

I like you and think you are generally a level headed GM. However when your superior makes a ruling you shouldn't create an argument against that ruling and post it on the forums like this...

First: It shows a lack of impartiality, because you should never post your opinion when your opinion isn't going to change any ruling.

Second: When you simply give your opinion in RNF without making an official ruling, you open yourself to argument from other people, such as myself right here. I realize that such a thing might be against the rules, but you asked for it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Finally TMO sucks balls, and embody the antithesis of what the new server rules are about. Your defense on their part is a travesty.

[Triangle]

Originally Posted by Triangle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First: It shows a lack of impartiality, because you should never post your opinion when your opinion isn't going to change any ruling.

Above is wrong: you should never post your opinion <when it contradicts that of your superior's> so long is your opinion is not going to change that ruling.

[quido]

Svenn always so mad - maybe he's just trying to clarify what is expected.

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by Triangle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like you and think you are generally a level headed GM. However when your superior makes a ruling you shouldn't create an argument against that ruling and post it on the forums like this...

First: It shows a lack of impartiality, because you should never post your opinion when your opinion isn't going to change any ruling.

Second: When you simply give your opinion in RNF without making an official ruling, you open yourself to argument from other people, such as myself right here. I realize that such a thing might be against the rules, but you asked for it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Finally TMO sucks balls, and embody the antithesis of what the new server rules are about. Your defense on their part is a travesty.

I never said his ruling was wrong. Rogean never said you can't kite the zone. A-team definitely got trained. Kiters should definitely be more aware of whats going on just like guilds in fear when CT is up should also be aware of what's going on.

None of this contradicts what Rogean said.

Also, there are far more important RnF threads now, so let's move on from this one [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

unless someone wants more maps, I'm all for that.