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Old 12-29-2013, 10:57 PM
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why cant you guys just bat phone and log in quicker? we need **Raid Discussion** Sub Fourms For Officer/Leaders of Raiding Guilds
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Old 12-29-2013, 11:00 PM
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why cant you guys just bat phone and log in quicker? we need **Raid Discussion** Sub Fourms For Officer/Leaders of Raiding Guilds
lol, need a discussion forum to block everyone's voice.
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Old 12-29-2013, 11:20 PM
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Can't log in and assemble when there's alts at the mob spawn point, lol

Also grats us on VS.
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Look, I really want to make this better for the nonhardcores here. But if a small faction of people is going to cockblock progress because they're not getting exactly what they want.....
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Old 12-29-2013, 11:24 PM
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A point system is overly complex, just instill a rotation if we collectively decide to go full retard as a raiding community.
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Old 12-29-2013, 11:57 PM
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Its math. Sorry if math is hard
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Old 12-30-2013, 12:01 AM
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why cant you guys just bat phone and log in quicker? we need **Raid Discussion** Sub Fourms For Officer/Leaders of Raiding Guilds
Because batphones are stupid and dumb and it is lowest common denominator neckbeard.
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Old 12-30-2013, 02:29 AM
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It's not a bidding system. Why does everyone think it is? This is the best proposal i've seen so far.
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Old 12-30-2013, 04:57 AM
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I'd like to think its the most fair proposal because it doesn't favor any guild. Guilds still have to work for mobs and compete like they want to, there's just a hard cap to limit the rampage. Elite guilds will still probably get first pick of the most valuable targets, so all they lose are mobs they shouldn't be killing anyway. Middle guilds like Taken and BDA can get more than one mob attempt in a week without having to focus their entire guild resources to block out one of the elite guilds. Guilds that don't want to track, like A team, can go after targets that spawn but no one wants to immediately spend the points on, if they are holding out for another target. Not every mob is downed the second it spawns.

The elite guilds think they are entitled to more mobs because they compete harder or some shit. For some reason its a numbers game. It doesn't matter that the targets they've been monopolizing are more valuable than stuff the rest of the server has been managing to kill - they simply feel like they should be able to kill MORE. Its evident in a few of the replies I've gotten from TMO stating they would 'simply quit' if they got limited to 4-5 mobs a week. I find this humorous - holy shit, get a hobby. Most of the other guilds are averaging a mob a week, if that. My guild can put in several days of combined tracking time and not have anything to show for it.

Any hardcores that we would actually lose to an idea like this would be replaced threefold by 'casual scum' who've already quit because of the raid scene here. Hell, this idea even helps the server population.
This system favors nobody, which is why TMO and FE will hate it. Its also why the rest of the server is more ambivalent towards it.
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Look, I really want to make this better for the nonhardcores here. But if a small faction of people is going to cockblock progress because they're not getting exactly what they want.....
Abomination Snowman - 60 Grave Lord
Proud owner of Innoruuk's Curse that did NOT come from TMO's bank or RMT.
Niluvien Forestwalker - 52 Ranger
Russled Jimmies - 54 Wizard
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Old 12-30-2013, 09:40 AM
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This system favors nobody, which is why TMO and FE will hate it. Its also why the rest of the server is more ambivalent towards it.
It does favor the people who can mobilize faster for the more desired mobs. It just stops TMO from leap-frogging and training at Vox while another guild is clearing ice giants (yes, they do this -- it's funny when they wipe). And it will pit pretty even competition against each other for mobs on all levels.

This is the fairest proposal while keeping things competative. The only people going full retard are TMO because dey terk der merbs! They'll never agree to anything that doesn't give them the majority or they can't manipulate until they get the majority. Good thing Rogean gave them a minority vote.
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Old 12-30-2013, 12:32 PM
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