FE/IB Kills 3 CT's in a row watch TMO's snipe attempt

[Yapas]

Originally Posted by kotton05 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You just admitted you sent a small group to ct while you was in NE corner lol. I knew you'd guys slip up

You are definitely more dumb than I thought dude.. Trying to alter my word, how pathetic you are.. and for which goal ? just have the last word AHAH

[Lammy]

Originally Posted by Yapas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are definitely more dumb than I thought dude.. Trying to alter my word, how pathetic you are.. and for which goal ? just have the last word AHAH

Merkk's head is under water, drowning in tears, panicing, and reaching for air... so easy on him

[Tanthallas]

Originally Posted by mishurza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well I don't know about your raid force but the crew that was with me at NE corner was perfectly capable of killing CT. Why does one of your raid leaders say in vent that your MT should run away from our engage with our mob?

1. We had three FTEs before your snipe wherein you obtained the fourth and final FTE; if you are really that fucking retarded to think that at this point it was possible to camp people out without wiping an entire force, I feel very bad for you. The ability to snipe FTE, especially in the context of one guild getting the first three FTE messages while another gets the fourth and last - should not allow one guild to force the other to wipe. IF you are not prepared to engage and hold aggro, do not go in and try to snipe FTE - it would be one thing if Imba sank in insane amount of aggro generating clickies, but as evidenced in the FRAPs he did not. TMO was CLEARLY not prepared at all to actually engage CT at the instance where they snipped FTE, which is evident by even their own members admitting that their raid was at the North-East corner while all of FE / IB forces where directly ontop of CT. Actually, their whole raid wasnt even at NE corner - half of them were RUNNING to NE corner from the zone in. This used to be punishable by suspension and other action if it continued; when the fuck did this become a legitimate raid maneuver - it is douchbaggery at its finest.

2. FTE sniping, per the staff, is now completely legal and not frowned upon in any effective way. To say that this isnt a recent change due to the implementation of yellow text is pure blinders / ignorance. When FE first started competing with TMO, Sirken himself refused me loot many times on many instances where FE had FTE simply because 'FE did not have a sufficient force engage'. This was regardless of what TMO did during our FTE and in what way TMO caused any harm upon our ability to engage on our FTE.

3. FTE messages WERE NOT put in to make FTE sniping the standard for raiding - they were put in to minimize confusion as to who had FTE so that people who SNIPED were not rewarded. FTE sniping was punished in the past quite frequently, and for a long time considered as a form of raid interference. Instead of FTE shouts being a way in which their initial purpose could be fulfilled, this wonderful yellow text has become an easy way for the staff to avoid the context of any situation and merely point at what the yellow text says for the solution to everything. This ALLOWS FTE sniping to run rampant - any guild which chooses to not behave accordingly - i.e., not FTE snipe / react to FTE snipes in some idealized fashion - gets fucked, as is evident by the recent rulings. The mechanism put in to allow guilds who are attempting to get clean engages and to hurt douchbag sniping behavior is now used to defend sniping - how ironic.

4. Sorry dad.

[Lammy]

Merkk's head is under water, drowning in tears, panicing, and reaching for air... go easy on him

[Tanthallas]

Originally Posted by eqmaze [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] ---------------------------
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Abraham <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Deca <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Doktyr <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [60 Sorcerer] Seargant (Erudite) <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Latnim <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Lestet <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Elethia
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Morbus <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Ogben <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Alde <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Malcolm <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Jasminda <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Twaila LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Bialar <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Alarti <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Detoxx <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Purpl <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Soapx <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Dosxx <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Saden <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Aalamar <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Joystick <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Ezathule <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Carrina <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Korrath <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Roodbnok <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Gena <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Butchh <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Inferitrixx <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Yapas <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Dolic
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Imslap <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Shamewow <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Zeelot <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] There are 34 players in Plane of Fear.

[Fri Dec 06 22:02:53 2013] Cazic Thule shouts 'IMBA'

Guy posts logs from the second engage which isnt even in question. Dont let this guy lawyer for you Alarti.

[Yapas]

WTS Merkk's Tears 1PP (common drop) // WTS Sloan's Tears 5 pp ( Uncommon but easy to get after getting Merkk's Tears).
OBO !

[Zeelot]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is the second engage. Which FE had cleanly, there is no argument over whether TMO had a sufficient force for it. The first engage is in question.

You guys are trying hard on deflecting this one eh.

[Fri Dec 06 22:01:48 2013] Bashyr says, 'war lfg'
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] Players on EverQuest:
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] ---------------------------
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Bashyr <Forceful Entry>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Bowdown <Forceful Entry> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Zarkanoff <Forceful Entry> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Fortiss <Forceful Entry>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Arttamis <Forceful Entry>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [60 Warlord] Imba (Skeleton) <Forceful Entry>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Mithra <Forceful Entry> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [60 Warlord] Krashed (Ogre) <Forceful Entry>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Oily <Forceful Entry> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Marksman <Forceful Entry>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Versaager <Forceful Entry>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Fundo <Forceful Entry> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Roublard <Forceful Entry>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:52 2013] There are 13 players in Plane of Fear.
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] Players on EverQuest:
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] ---------------------------
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Dianamel <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Aerioch <Inglourious Basterds> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Amothiel <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [52 Rake] Rodent (Gnome) <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Danjerr <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Bier <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Getsome <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Drippin <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Destroyed <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Analia <Inglourious Basterds> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Kragnus <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Varzii <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Nukin <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Wavaran <Inglourious Basterds>
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:53 2013] There are 14 players in Plane of Fear.
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:54 2013] Butchh steps into the shadows and disappears.
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:56 2013] Cazic Thule shouts 'Denizens of Fear, your master commands you to come forth to his aid!!
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:56 2013] Cazic Thule engages Wavaran!
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:56 2013] Cazic Thule says 'WAVARAN'
[Fri Dec 06 22:01:58 2013] Abraham tells the guild, 'zone in?'
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:08 2013] Domjot's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:08 2013] Cazic Thule shouts 'Denizens of Fear, your master commands you to come forth to his aid!!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:08 2013] Cazic Thule engages Domjot!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:09 2013] Your shadows fade.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:09 2013] You hit Cazic Thule for 6 points of damage.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:12 2013] Alarti's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:13 2013] Alarti's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:14 2013] Cazic Thule shouts 'DOMJOT'
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:16 2013] a glare lord's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:17 2013] a phantasm begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:17 2013] Aalamar begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:17 2013] Joystick begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:18 2013] Joystick's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:19 2013] Aalamar's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:21 2013] Butchh's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:23 2013] a phantasm's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:24 2013] Oily begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] Players on EverQuest:
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] ---------------------------
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Abraham <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Deca <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Doktyr <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [60 Sorcerer] Seargant (Erudite) <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Latnim <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Lestet <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Elethia
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Morbus <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Ogben <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Alde <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Malcolm <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Jasminda <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Twaila LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Bialar <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Alarti <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Detoxx <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Purpl <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Soapx <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Dosxx <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Saden <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Aalamar <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Joystick <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Ezathule <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Carrina <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Korrath <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Roodbnok <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Gena <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Butchh <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Inferitrixx <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Yapas <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Dolic
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Imslap <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Shamewow <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Zeelot <The Mystical Order>
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] There are 34 players in Plane of Fear.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:27 2013] Aalamar begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:28 2013] a glare lord begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:29 2013] Aalamar's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:30 2013] a glare lord begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:34 2013] a phantasm begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:34 2013] a glare lord's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:35 2013] a glare lord's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:37 2013] a tentacle tormentor begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:37 2013] Aalamar begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:38 2013] Yapas crushes Cazic Thule for 93 points of damage.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:38 2013] Yapas crushes Cazic Thule for 93 points of damage.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:39 2013] a turmoil toad begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:39 2013] Aalamar's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:40 2013] a turmoil toad's casting is interrupted!
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:40 2013] Dosxx says out of character, 'nice kite'
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:40 2013] a glare lord begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:40 2013] Yapas crushes Cazic Thule for 21 points of damage.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:41 2013] Ezathule slashes Cazic Thule for 24 points of damage.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:41 2013] Ezathule slashes Cazic Thule for 26 points of damage.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:42 2013] Yapas crushes Cazic Thule for 165 points of damage.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:44 2013] Ezathule kicks Cazic Thule for 1 point of damage.
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:44 2013] Fountree tells the guild, 'kiting = raid interference'
[Fri Dec 06 22:02:44 2013] Cazic Thule shouts 'IMBA'

[Yapas]

Do you hear the silent behind the wind ? lol

[Autotune]

It's in your best interest to pull raid targets instead of rushing them when you know the competition is around.

Oh why is this true mr stealin dragons?

Well, little stupid fucknugget, when you have your entire raid force rush across a zone and the competition has spies running around, it's in their best interest to fuck your entire engage and make you back off/camp out. If they snag fte, you have back off and deal with any aggro you managed to take from them, this means your entire engage is now fucked and the competition only has to wait until you're all dead/camped to die as well and blame it on the fucked aggro.

Basically, charging guild stands to lose multiple people and spy guild stands to lose 1 (maybe up to 3).

If you had just sent out 2-3 people to pull CT just a little towards your camp and then have your force charge the rest after FTE confirmation, you'd not of had that happen. The NPC charging factor is more acceptable than the bullshit troll snipes.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Just sounds like a rules clarification is needed. Raid rules are patched together as it is, and GMs seem to have the final say regardless of the rules. P99 is basically mega city 1.