let's get real about item loot

[Bazia]

honestly with that many exclusions why bother with it at all

[nilbog]

That many ?

[Lowlife]

why put anything except lube and food/water in those bags then?

you're just limiting carrying capacity and making this system a bigger inconvenience than any other one ive seen thus far.

[nilbog]

Worn items + bagged items.

[Lowlife]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Worn items + bagged items.

eh, i still think random is superior. this sounds like a bigger PITA than standard rallos bagging and encouraging people to play naked.

[nilbog]

I think random is cool too. But if you can fill up slots with random items, how do you make it fair for someone who doesn't do that?

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think random is cool too. But if you can fill up slots with random items, how do you make it fair for someone who doesn't do that?

I would have 7 bags with 1 bone chip each in it.

Meaning 70 bone chips would come into play into the randomness...

[Lowlife]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think random is cool too. But if you can fill up slots with random items, how do you make it fair for someone who doesn't do that?

You make worn items a high drop % value than bagged items.

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by DrScience [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok, can you explain your reasoning behind bagged items? As someone who played on Rallos since launch in 1999 as a top random PKer, I can't understand why someone would want to disallow people from bagging gear?

The most obvious enormous disadvantage is again for melee. Casters (especially porting casters) can bind at a bank and keep their valuables safe, while a melee class would have to carry their gear on them at all times or leave it in the bank. Then if they decide "hey this is my day I'm bringing out my fbss!" they then need to run around the world with an entourage or face the obvious chance of losing it.

So you're a warrior and have a fantastic fight with someone who begins shadowstepping, bagging all their gear. By the time you kill them, they have nothing to loot.

Trying to consider some of the problems with Rallos Zek. In this era, possibly including macro-ing the bagging process.

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

including macro-ing the bagging process.

This is my biggest problem with it. Normal players being at a disadvantage on top of not knowing how to pvp as well as everyone else.


I'm not trying to promote any one system.. just considering the possibilities and problems of all of them. TBH, I like the original RZ system because it's the one I played with.