Classic PvP: I was there. The truth about teams, item loot, etc

[Absynthe2k5]

Originally Posted by Bazia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Level caps is the stupidest idea I have ever heard suggested, and will never ever happen.

I will outlevel you within hours then camp your casual scum corpse

Followed with screenshots of the rage tells and kill on the forums

Boy you got a perrty mouth... /em plays a banjo


You make me chuckle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Bazia]

level caps lol

[Absynthe2k5]

Anyhoo I like quite a few of the op's ideas.

I am new here but played and still play live. I like FFA and teams. FFA allows for a bit more pvp on small pop.

Dunno how the devs view input of item skins from later xpansions but you could always introduce pvp points. You "coin" an even con and after awhile save up for trade ins on vanity type items. Titles or maybe even re skinning one of your weapons to look like something from a later expansion etc. This way the classic stays classic stats items etc but you get some pvp pimps running around with some nice graphical items for their hard work? Or is that just too much crap to try and code into the game piece by piece?

[Bazia]

those "pvp reward" systems are exploitable and the amount of work that it would require to make them not is a waste of time

thats why they dont exist

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by Absynthe2k5 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Something you missed about the no lvl range, sure jerks would camp lowbies it was a common tactic but what happened shortly after (on every team) was the knights of the team would show up and prison shower scenes would follow. People looked to the big guilds on their team as protectors and many of those larger guilds did just that. They would hang out helping folks pl a bit and locking down zones so folks could level. This is why folks say teams offers community. The problem is many of those folks are gone and you have the rif raf left over.

Im gonna say this is something that works in teams favor. On blue i used to PL noobs all the time in unrest with my druid cuz well, wtf else am i gonna do, poop camp all the time? lol

Here on red im less inclined to do it, because who knows lies behind that alt. Might be a nilly alt in the making. On teams at least people stay on your team, cuz their hardcoded in.

You might be leveling a cross teamer though

Still dont see a good way to not make a teams server a grieffest

[Darksinga]

Doktoor +1 post man and good recap on the history of the Zek servers. I played on Vallon against you, and also on VZTZ with you (not sure if we were in opposing guilds there.)

Like some one said earlier, ultimately a teams PvP server is more blue but the thing is: a "more blue" team servers caters to MUCH more people.

Pros of a team server (as stated multiple times previously):

1) a safety net in which one can xp/farm content without having to worry about being killed.
2) psychological sense of belonging/association to a particular group. No I'm not talking about running half way across Norrath to save a elf getting CC'd by dark elves-- People who get CC'd are dumb, just log out for a few hours and do RL shit-- I'm talking about running through a zone and you see two dark elves beating on a wood elf druid. You, as the wood elf rogue will definitely sneak/hide, go behind those fgt wizards and continue to backstab them until their dead. Who honestly would turn the other way and just /laugh at his teammate getting slewn? Only a few of the die hard pvpers/griefers who I will provide a very valid point for:


The die hard Pvpers/griefers will play regardless of the ruleset so instead of catering to those select few degenerates: Heartbrand, Tune, Nihilum in general, Holocaust scum-- cater to semi bluebies who would love a new server.

A lot of the mind set at Red99 launch was "LOL I'm going to corpse/bind camp as many bluebies as I can to send them back to Blue99 LOL I'm SO COOL."

Make that shit a bannable offense. Make Corpse Camping illegal. Training illegal. Allow LnS if you're not a fgt who talks crap while looting his corpse. Implement a 8 lvl PvP Range (8 lvls is perfect-- no immortal healer lvl 4 crap-- no FFA lvl range lvl 50s camping lvl 10s in Crushbone.)

Overall though Devs, don't listen to a word that comes out of the mouth from any one with a post count over a thousand. Don't listen to the diehards who as a stated previously, will continue to play regardless. Listen to the masses who would absolutely LOVE a teams server (but don't have the voice/motivation to say so on these forums) in which griefing is very limited, if not a bannable offense.

[runlvlzero]

Originally Posted by Darksinga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Doktoor +1 post man and good recap on the history of the Zek servers. I played on Vallon against you, and also on VZTZ with you (not sure if we were in opposing guilds there.)

Like some one said earlier, ultimately a teams PvP server is more blue but the thing is: a "more blue" team servers caters to MUCH more people.

Pros of a team server (as stated multiple times previously):

1) a safety net in which one can xp/farm content without having to worry about being killed.
2) psychological sense of belonging/association to a particular group. No I'm not talking about running half way across Norrath to save a elf getting CC'd by dark elves-- People who get CC'd are dumb, just log out for a few hours and do RL shit-- I'm talking about running through a zone and you see two dark elves beating on a wood elf druid. You, as the wood elf rogue will definitely sneak/hide, go behind those fgt wizards and continue to backstab them until their dead. Who honestly would turn the other way and just /laugh at his teammate getting slewn? Only a few of the die hard pvpers/griefers who I will provide a very valid point for:


The die hard Pvpers/griefers will play regardless of the ruleset so instead of catering to those select few degenerates: Heartbrand, Tune, Nihilum in general, Holocaust scum-- cater to semi bluebies who would love a new server.

A lot of the mind set at Red99 launch was "LOL I'm going to corpse/bind camp as many bluebies as I can to send them back to Blue99 LOL I'm SO COOL."

Make that shit a bannable offense. Make Corpse Camping illegal. Training illegal. Allow LnS if you're not a fgt who talks crap while looting his corpse. Implement a 8 lvl PvP Range (8 lvls is perfect-- no immortal healer lvl 4 crap-- no FFA lvl range lvl 50s camping lvl 10s in Crushbone.)

Overall though Devs, don't listen to a word that comes out of the mouth from any one with a post count over a thousand. Don't listen to the diehards who as a stated previously, will continue to play regardless. Listen to the masses who would absolutely LOVE a teams server (but don't have the voice/motivation to say so on these forums) in which griefing is very limited, if not a bannable offense.

[heartbrand]

You realize that I've give more free gear and pl out than almost anyone on this server? Just the other night on my stream I gave 15k worth of loot to a random free newb. I gave free loot to you as we'll without knowing you. Keep the griefer label to yourself.

[heartbrand]

Only person who has given away more / pled more is probably the other person you called a griefer "tune" who is prolly the nicest guy on the entire box

[Bazia]

I want to know what Tune does for a living that enables him to play 17 hours a day

I'm not joking or trolling, share the tips for success bro