Is it possible to get my non-gamer girlfriend into EQ?

[Ajkuhuun]

On second thought, drama always makes for a good thread so maybe we should get some cat fights going here

Now all we need is jello~

In all seriousness though, even though my first post was taken wrong by one gal, and I apologize that she took what I said wrong, girl gamers have come a long way since I started playing in 1999, but some of the old stereotypes are still there which makes it a bit hard. I think part of that assuming a girl should be a support class mentality might stem from a nurturing nature...or something :P There's nothing wrong with being a support class, in fact the game couldn't function without them, however, there IS a problem with girls as a whole feeling as if a support class is their only option.

Even though the gaming community is less one sided than it used to be, ideas like girls are too emotional for leadership roles, or cause drama in guilds, or cyber fuck every guy in their guild, etc. are still very much a part of the gaming culture. Just like in real life, it takes time but after a while I think we'll see less one sided views on what a girl gamer is good at in a game, and what they might enjoy in a game. Hey nobody likes being stuck into a stereotype...even hunters from WoW [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My Everquest story is that my older brother and I sort of had a long standing trade war going on with Magic cards (I was 19 and he was in his late 20's so I know how sad it sounds) and at one point I owed him more than he owed me. My cousin and him had started playing EQ and he said he'd wipe my debt if I went and bought it, so I did. At the time I remember my cousin, who is a guy, telling me "Don't worry about buying Velious, you'll never get there anyway." An offhanded remark at the time, but as it happens out of all our real life friends I was the first to get to Velious, the first to raid, the one who carried them from epic to epic, the one who networked with the community so they could obtain those epics without being in a raid guild. I loved EQ, and got my first real taste of MMO's. It was a feeling I ended up carrying with me through SWG, EQ2, WoW, SWTOR...a plethora of other games, and I never quite got that same feeling until I rerolled here. The community is exactly what I fell in love with in EQ back when I started, the game is the same, and I think it's a great game to start off your girl on. It's not EZmode like WoW, and it's not so difficult that the learning curve is just too daunting to even want to catch up on.

I hope you guys enjoy your time here, I'm low level myself but if you need a hand in game, hit me up (my toon name is Ajkuhuun) or the hubby up (his toon name is Naena). Have fun!

[Roku]

Originally Posted by Ajkuhuun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm married and since I don't plan on fucking you, whether you think I'm a girl or not really doesn't matter, now does it?

This made me like you; in a platonic way, of course.

On live, I was in a raiding guild that was led by a wife/husband team. The wife was guild leader, raid leader, and diplomat. She was also a monk and often pulled on the raids as well. Later on, as the guild developed, many of these tasks were delegated, but there was never a doubt who was the guild leader. And we all liked it that way.

On p99, Divinity was led by a female guild leader from its beginning through most of its growth and development. It has since undergone many changes, but the principles and foundation developed then remain.

Choose not to allow others to pigeonhole you, and they won't.

[Ajkuhuun]

Nice Roku, and I agree, one of the first things is to not allow yourself to be a victim (victim seems like a strong word here? But you know what I mean.)

On live never had the pleasure of a female guild or raid leader unless I counted myself lol. All the hardcore raiding guilds on Lanys were ran by guys and if they knew you were a chick, it was over. It was either being hit on, coddled, or left with a job that was so unimportant in a raid it didn't matter whether it got done or not.

I totally started rolling male toons, and it was amazing the difference you saw between one and another. For one thing people seem to be more straightforward when you're fucking up and they think you're a guy, it really helped me to improve my gameplay.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Originally Posted by Zeonick [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're right about girls often getting stuck with those types of classes. I don't mind playing support classes, they may not be the star of the show but they have so much utility which makes them fun.

I probably should "direct" less and just let her figure stuff out on her own. She did learn that a stack of bone chips sells for 5pp by talking to someone, and was pretty stoked about that [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the existence of support classes is part of why we are playing this old game. Correct me if I am wrong, but my impression of most mmorpg games after eq, is you either heal or do dps.

In eq2 enchanters got turned into a massive dps class. When I left eq2 in 2010, I was often topping the parse. Our buffs last until removed, and cc is almost non-existent.

The idea of "utility classes" is high on my list of Things Games Have Forgotten.

Long live the support/utility class! And may designers who can design them come back to life?

[dnice]

Originally Posted by Stinkum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The question is: Why would you want to?

lol exactly my thought

[Autotune]

I'm not reading all of this. However, if you're GF can't be a decent leader and get pulling down she won't last as a monk here.

Should have rolled a rogue imo.

Also, shaman is an obvious choice with Monk. However, you can also roll with cleric, necro, or druid and do pretty well.

As for people telling you it isn't worth it, they don't know what the fuck they are talking about. Getting your SO to join you in your hobbies (or at least try them with you) is a good way to bond and for them to try to understand your hobbies. However, don't be shocked when she asks you to do the same and you better fucking do it too.

P.S. I skimmed through some of these replies. Don't tell her to do necro, or any other int caster for that matter. If she wants to smash faces, let her. If she fails at monk, get her to try a rogue. Rogues are very similar and play less of a leadership role in groups (generally). Another benefit of playing a rogue, is you get more time to socialize and more time seeing how other people play their class (while being able to smash faces). Casters get the same benefit, but they just sit there like smug assholes (except necros, they are the monks of the mana classes).

Anyhow, good luck and don't get high hopes that she will like it. EQ isn't for everyone (even gamers) and if she decides to quit it, just get her to try other things if she is still interested in trying games.

[Porz]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not reading all of this. However, if you're GF can't be a decent leader and get pulling down she won't last as a monk here.

Should have rolled a rogue imo.

Also, shaman is an obvious choice with Monk. However, you can also roll with cleric, necro, or druid and do pretty well.

As for people telling you it isn't worth it, they don't know what the fuck they are talking about. Getting your SO to join you in your hobbies (or at least try them with you) is a good way to bond and for them to try to understand your hobbies. However, don't be shocked when she asks you to do the same and you better fucking do it too.

P.S. I skimmed through some of these replies. Don't tell her to do necro, or any other int caster for that matter. If she wants to smash faces, let her. If she fails at monk, get her to try a rogue. Rogues are very similar and play less of a leadership role in groups (generally). Another benefit of playing a rogue, is you get more time to socialize and more time seeing how other people play their class (while being able to smash faces). Casters get the same benefit, but they just sit there like smug assholes (except necros, they are the monks of the mana classes).

Anyhow, good luck and don't get high hopes that she will like it. EQ isn't for everyone (even gamers) and if she decides to quit it, just get her to try other things if she is still interested in trying games.

Best reply so far.

[Zeonick]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not reading all of this. However, if you're GF can't be a decent leader and get pulling down she won't last as a monk here.

Should have rolled a rogue imo.

Also, shaman is an obvious choice with Monk. However, you can also roll with cleric, necro, or druid and do pretty well.

As for people telling you it isn't worth it, they don't know what the fuck they are talking about. Getting your SO to join you in your hobbies (or at least try them with you) is a good way to bond and for them to try to understand your hobbies. However, don't be shocked when she asks you to do the same and you better fucking do it too.

P.S. I skimmed through some of these replies. Don't tell her to do necro, or any other int caster for that matter. If she wants to smash faces, let her. If she fails at monk, get her to try a rogue. Rogues are very similar and play less of a leadership role in groups (generally). Another benefit of playing a rogue, is you get more time to socialize and more time seeing how other people play their class (while being able to smash faces). Casters get the same benefit, but they just sit there like smug assholes (except necros, they are the monks of the mana classes).

Anyhow, good luck and don't get high hopes that she will like it. EQ isn't for everyone (even gamers) and if she decides to quit it, just get her to try other things if she is still interested in trying games.

Great reply, made me laugh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] But with lots of good info also! A rogue is a really good idea, the only thing is they're so gear dependent. Monks are too, but I feel like people are a little more forgiving about it.

[mtb tripper]

that'd be turkey shit

[Shamen]

If I were you I would....

PL her to catch up with your shammy who is mid lvl so it would only take few days....and then start exping together.

If you want I could take her to Dalnir and farm full crescent gear set for her. Ive done it for several noobs already and really enjoyed it. Dalnir is fun zone, taking low lvl noobie there, keeping him/her alive is a lot of fun and she can come out after couple of hrs wearing pretty damn good gear for a starting monk!

send me tell in game if you wanna do it.

Shamen Scaled <Taken> 60 Iksar Shaman