why do so many people want a teams server?

[SamwiseRed]

whether or not the zerg gonna zerg is a seperate issue. the main point of teams is it is alot more fun. once team servers came around alot of us left rz and never returned.

[Rust1d?]

I started red 99 when it came out. The people I played with left mainly because the exp was just too slow. So we went from a 700 pop on day 1, to about 500 after week 2, 300 after week 4 and about 200 from then on (I made multiple posts about the population decline but people said it was because the holidays etc. when it fact it was crap exp.

As much as people want classic, you simply cannot have a server with classic exp, it just cannot happen.

I think a new server would be great with the following:

1) 3 teams. 2 never works and having guild vs guild vs guild pvp would keep things interesting.
2) Better exp. Something along the lines of what LoZ has in place.
3) No item loot. That shit never works. Deal with it.
4) Create a max # of members a guild can have to eliminate mega guilds.

Teams will keep things fresh and allow new players to join and play without getting griefed off the server. Encourages making twinks and low level pvp.

[Nirgon]

Teams server that allows char copy from both blue and red

That could be good for some lals

[Stasis01]

I don't care about the end game raid scene with a teams adjustment - I'd be happy with red99 playing alts/doing casual shit. There is no community on this box, you can't even find EXP grps - it's solo quest.

The people arguing against teams preferring the current model are either Nihilum or crazy/trolling. There are no exp grps, no ones helping new players/gearing people up - and for good reason, eventually they will app to Nihilum.

Heartbrand tried, Lite tried, Kringe tried - you end up being a feeder guild for a one guild box and prefer to quit. At the very least teams gives solo players people to play with, while currently they just get trained/chewied/laughed off the box.

Our low/mid level community are epic twinked rogues/fungi twinks/griefers that don't have the time to go play with the no lifers - with people having no reason/desire to help people trying to get through that.

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by Stasis01 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't care about the end game raid scene with a teams adjustment - I'd be happy with red99 playing alts/doing casual shit. There is no community on this box, you can't even find EXP grps - it's solo quest.

The people arguing against teams preferring the current model are either Nihilum or crazy/trolling. There are no exp grps, no ones helping new players/gearing people up - and for good reason, eventually they will app to Nihilum.

Heartbrand tried, Lite tried, Kringe tried - you end up being a feeder guild for a one guild box and prefer to quit. At the very least teams gives solo players people to play with, while currently they just get trained/chewied/laughed off the box.

Our low/mid level community are epic twinked rogues/fungi twinks/griefers that don't have the time to go play with the no lifers - with people having no reason/desire to help people trying to get through that.

There are other solutions to the problems you presented though.

For one teams wont work on a server that is this old. The ONLY way teams would work is to setup 3 teams (Team 1, 2, 3 whatever they are named) and then force people to join a team on login once implemented. Once they join that team it is forever. And all new chars created and forced to join one at lvl 1.

If you want EXP groups then you need to make safe zones. I know this is a pvp server but with low pop that is the only way. Define a zone or two in each level range as safe zones meaning no pvp. Zones with raid mobs cant be safe zones but like Lower Guk, Kedge Keep, Howling Stones could be to allow people to freely level.

Add in a group exp bonus. Right now the mod is 2.0, make it so each person in the group adds .4 to the mod. So a group of 6 would have a 4.0 exp mod. This would promote grouping a ton.

[Syft]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are other solutions to the problems you presented though.

For one teams wont work on a server that is this old. The ONLY way teams would work is to setup 3 teams (Team 1, 2, 3 whatever they are named) and then force people to join a team on login once implemented. Once they join that team it is forever. And all new chars created and forced to join one at lvl 1.

If you want EXP groups then you need to make safe zones. I know this is a pvp server but with low pop that is the only way. Define a zone or two in each level range as safe zones meaning no pvp. Zones with raid mobs cant be safe zones but like Lower Guk, Kedge Keep, Howling Stones could be to allow people to freely level.

Add in a group exp bonus. Right now the mod is 2.0, make it so each person in the group adds .4 to the mod. So a group of 6 would have a 4.0 exp mod. This would promote grouping a ton.

I consider anything you say stupid because your guild is literally trying to kill the server pop, your the only ones who will grief kill someone 25 times in a row if you can.

Banning everyone of you would increase the server pop by x4 in only a few weeks, you all should be banned anyways for using hack compiles and sharing the info in mirc chat so you don't get caught.

[runlvlzero]

Theres also no one to help... I LFG'd at level 10 last night and by level 16 found myself still soloing in unrest.

Granted if I /ooc'd free druid pls people would roll toons just to get pld, but it wouldnt be new players. Its not my style to PL people like that.

I ran into high levels looking for fights/pixels. And the only other people in my range I ran into was 1 guy getting PL'd by a friend (thanks for not steeling my mobs, you guys are awesome)). And one guy who pvpd me outside of Unrest. Obviously not a main toon. Not going to call twink. But they def had a jade mace =)

Grouping with people 5 levels past you in your teens doesnt work, even from a PL perspective. The low level under 30 game is broken because of level spread. Speed at which 99% of the pop can solo.

[Syft]

Originally Posted by runlvlzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Theres also no one to help... I LFG'd at level 10 last night and by level 16 found myself still soloing in unrest.

Granted if I /ooc'd free druid pls people would roll toons just to get pld, but it wouldnt be new players. Its not my style to PL people like that.

I ran into high levels looking for fights/pixels. And the only other people in my range I ran into was 1 guy getting PL'd by a friend (thanks for not steeling my mobs, you guys are awesome)). And one guy who pvpd me outside of Unrest. Obviously not a main toon. Not going to call twink. But they def had a jade mace =)

Grouping with people 5 levels past you in your teens doesnt work, even from a PL perspective. The low level under 30 game is broken because of level spread. Speed at which 99% of the pop can solo.

And if you spent some time in unrest last night you would have gotten to see Bulletproofx and Zarah dispelling low lvl noobs in unrest, yea top notch players great for our server pop.

Until Brainz came in and taught bullet how men without boy parts do shit

[runlvlzero]

I was on really late... 12:00am 2am EST there. I was burning out or i'de have been there like 4am.

And yeah dispelling noobs OOR is a fucking RETARD move. This is why I want direct GM involvement in player politics, even if its just to DT those ass holes and knock 10 levels off them for being fuck heads. Banning is not a good solution. But fucking up their Ego's would work great over the long run.

They need to get the fuckhead spanked out of them. No way to make people pushup in game, but that'd work too (backed by threat of getting your ass layed out) I don't advocate violence, but at this point when people get that stupid because it wasn't remedied earlier in their lives its necessary.

TBH its because theres simply no consequences on this box. There's no way to hold people accountable, FFA is not working in that regard. There's no shining knights or good guys. There's a few solo ones out there, but they are only permitted to port/rez/buff/pl. If anyone pvpd they'd instantly be banned for causing consequences for stupid assholes.

The only good guys there ever were were wolfs in sheeps clothing. Don't even bring up bullshit actors like Serenity/Vae Victus into this. They didn't "take care of noobs". FoH real close to being box heroes but if your not hardcore they will fuck u up just as bad as the rest.

*edits: remove apostrophe from hero's to heroes cause grammar important dawgs.

[Potus]

Every single time I've been to Unrest someone from Nihilum has dispelled all my buffs off me.

Every single time.