Item loot for server growth

[Swyft]

Originally Posted by Faerie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

VZ and TZ both had item loot. VZ had it for longer.

And what? They each had 4 teams.

Edit 2: and since when does WoW have level limits for pvp?

if VZ and TZ had item loot and were the only pvp server's around in 1999 THAN WHY ARE YOU SAYING ITEM LOOT ISNT CLASSIC???

Do you realize your argument for opposing item loot just collapsed on itself!

<facepalm> why is common sense so uncommon nowadays!

[Bazia]

swyft has smoked himself retarded

[Clark]

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[Grampy]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Spike, these are some WoW generation man children who couldn't emotionally afford to lose a pixel

I'm EQ generation pal. I played on Tallon Zek before and after item loot. All item loot did was create situations where opponents would sit there bagging items instead of fighting as soon as they knew they figured they were going to lose. That isn't pvp.

At the same time, there is a reason for twinks to get lowbie non twinks to help them gank up an opposing twink for the potential of good loot.

What reason is that again? Why would a super twink need the help of a naked server newbie to gank someone else? Also in that scenario why would the super twink give the loot to the naked newbie? I call BS.

[tedsternator]

Originally Posted by Grampy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Listen to what you just said... pros hunting twinks. How the fuck is THIS scenario going to encourage NEW players to join the server?

Uh, it would certainly get me and all the people I used to play with on RZ to roll up on this server. I know it's not saying much to say "me and about 9 guys I know would play on an itemloot server HUGE POPULATION JUMP" but there have to be more people like me and my guild out there who would literally never bother playing until itemloot was implemented.

[Grampy]

Originally Posted by tedsternator [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Uh, it would certainly get me and all the people I used to play with on RZ to roll up on this server. I know it's not saying much to say "me and about 9 guys I know would play on an itemloot server HUGE POPULATION JUMP" but there have to be more people like me and my guild out there who would literally never bother playing until itemloot was implemented.

I suppose we'll just have to take your word for it eh mister 1 post who just happened to fly in here for this debate.

[tedsternator]

That me and a few friends would join the server? Yeah, you'll have to take my word on that

[Grampy]

Exp bonus is a guaranteed population increase because everyone likes leveling faster. Item loot only helps zerg groups or established twinks. It does nothing to help individuals coming to the server alone.

[tedsternator]

Originally Posted by Grampy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Exp bonus is a guaranteed population increase because everyone likes leveling faster. Item loot only helps zerg groups or established twinks. It does nothing to help individuals coming to the server alone.

I don't really agree. I play mostly solo PvP or maybe 2-3 people in a party at a given time because I like the challenge, but without the risk/reward of itemloot I feel like PvP is totally pointless. It's why I could never get into WoW.

Granted I only can speak for me and the people I play games with but your statements are definitely not universally true. I used to know a bunch of dudes in your guild that felt the same way.

[Swyft]

Originally Posted by Grampy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Exp bonus is a guaranteed population increase because everyone likes leveling faster. Item loot only helps zerg groups or established twinks. It does nothing to help individuals coming to the server alone.

You say that your new to this well if that's true then killing one twink banking the item and selling it would literally save you 3 month's of gearing up.