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Old 04-05-2013, 07:32 AM
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Why is it laughable?
this was in response to you saying all military members were "LOUD I SERVED FAGGOTS"

and i told you a huge majority are not because i actually know military members and the obnoxious dog tag nerds are few and far in between

then u tried ot make some point about us wearing the same uniform at work meaning we all behaved the same off duty or something

it just didnt make sense
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Old 04-05-2013, 07:39 AM
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this was in response to you saying all military members were "LOUD I SERVED FAGGOTS"

and i told you a huge majority are not because i actually know military members and the obnoxious dog tag nerds are few and far in between

then u tried ot make some point about us wearing the same uniform at work meaning we all behaved the same off duty or something

it just didnt make sense
You're making a distinction I do not recognize. As far as I'm concerned, while you're under contract, you're never "off duty." They can call you back any time until that contract runs out, right?

And I used language to insinuate that even tho you may in fact have different personalities, you're all still ants slaved to that contract.

You still never answered my question about refusing orders. The picture you're painting is that people can not shoot people they have been ordered to shoot if they don't want to. I've asked you if it's ok to refuse orders, and you completely sidestepped that.
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Old 04-05-2013, 07:43 AM
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The picture you're painting is that people can not shoot people they have been ordered to shoot if they don't want to. I've asked you if it's ok to refuse orders, and you completely sidestepped that.
since i was criticizing you for dodging points ill go a bit more into detail for you on this one, i like giving people insight into actual military goings on that haven't been sensationalized for profit by media organizations

if the hypothetical situation came up where i was ordered by a higher ranking officer to just "kill" someone who did attack me first or even if they did, no i would not have to do it.

later they could bring me to a ucmj trial i suppose (they never would its an enormous inconvenience for everyone involved) where i would be tried for refusal to follow an order. and I could just say i was anxious or didn't feel competent to make the decision at the time and I would never be convicted/punished
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Old 04-05-2013, 07:48 AM
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if the hypothetical situation came up where i was ordered by a higher ranking officer to just "kill" someone who did attack me first or even if they did, no i would not have to do it.
Even if those orders conform to the UCOMJ?
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Old 04-05-2013, 07:34 AM
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Also, i'm tired and not even checking any of this shit I type out.
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Old 04-05-2013, 07:38 AM
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autotune man u have a good attitude but ur kinda over dramatizing it along with hasbinbad, its not like u get there and your ordered to kill people

i deployed with ranger regiment, trust me i know

this is kinda wut my original post was about people who haven't been there having these strange almost theatrical opinions on the military
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Old 04-05-2013, 08:22 AM
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autotune man u have a good attitude but ur kinda over dramatizing it along with hasbinbad, its not like u get there and your ordered to kill people

i deployed with ranger regiment, trust me i know

this is kinda wut my original post was about people who haven't been there having these strange almost theatrical opinions on the military
i'm just doing what he is doing, mixing truth with not-so-truth.

My brother in law is(was) a ranger, pretty sure you don't ever stop being one of those.
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Old 04-05-2013, 08:24 AM
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i'm just doing what he is doing, mixing truth with not-so-truth.

My brother in law is(was) a ranger, pretty sure you don't ever stop being one of those.
rangers lead the way, im sure you already know this but your brother in law is a bad ass

those guys do not fuck around lol bravest dudes i have ever met in my life
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Old 04-05-2013, 07:44 AM
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didn't* attack me first

yeah ive been up all night, its one of those manic weekends haha
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Old 04-05-2013, 07:49 AM
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I think you take an oath or something that directly contradicts what you're saying right now.
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