Most Useful/Game Changing Epic

[Handull]

cleric epic is the biggest game changer for raiding

bard epic is the best single epic, useful for solo, group, and raid content

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by Handull [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

cleric epic is the biggest game changer for raiding

bard epic is the best single epic, useful for solo, group, and raid content

I would tend to agree with that statement. Would even add Cleric epic game changer even in a group. But the Bard with a epic in a group would sure help also no doubt.

I wonder how many Bard epic's even are in the game? I am hard pressed to remember seeing even one of them in the tunnel or grouped.

[Asap]

Originally Posted by webrunner5 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wonder how many Bard epic's even are in the game? I am hard pressed to remember seeing even one of them in the tunnel or grouped.

Every bard in tmo, every bard alt in tmo, a couple in FE

[zanderklocke]

Couple rich characters with bard epics too. I only need the 3 dragon pieces, and that runs 350K+ from TMO.

In theory, there could be a lot of bard epics on the server. I mean I assume trakanon drops his guts fairly often, and at least 2-3 red dragon scales due to raid targets and Ragefire are entering the server a week. Not sure how many white dragon scales are entering the server a week, but I would guess at least 1, if not more.

I mean the trakanon guts, which are likely being stockpiled, are the only not reasonably affordable part to the bard epic.

[TarukShmaruk]

Originally Posted by zanderklocke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Couple rich characters with bard epics too. I only need the 3 dragon pieces, and that runs 350K+ from TMO.

In theory, there could be a lot of bard epics on the server. I mean I assume trakanon drops his guts fairly often, and at least 2-3 red dragon scales due to raid targets and Ragefire are entering the server a week. Not sure how many white dragon scales are entering the server a week, but I would guess at least 1, if not more.

I mean the trakanon guts, which are likely being stockpiled, are the only not reasonable affordable part to the bard epic.

Why don't you just ask if you can contribute some barding to TMO in return for looting the trak guts if nobody in guild needs them?

[zanderklocke]

Originally Posted by TarukShmaruk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why don't you just ask if you can contribute some barding to TMO in return for looting the trak guts if nobody in guild needs them?

They sell the guts. There is no way they would give them to me for free (or for any barding activity) when they can sell them to people for 350K. Nothing I can offer, in my opinion, to TMO in terms of my bard-time would be valued at 350K.

I mean I guess I could ask to help them poopsock or something to earn them, but I would feel sort of insulting even asking that.

[TarukShmaruk]

Originally Posted by zanderklocke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They sell the guts. There is no way they would give them to me for free (or for any barding activity) when they can sell them to people for 350K. Nothing I can offer, in my opinion, to TMO in terms of my bard-time would be valued at 350K.

I mean I guess I could ask to help them poopsock or something to earn them, but I would feel sort of insulting even asking that.

Yeah, that sucks. I guess you can wait until the undead bard thing.

I know your pain, though. I was in the exact same spot back in early 2002 and couldn't get my hands on a white dragonscale.

I actually lost the roll on one to some caster who wanted the cloak (before they changed it to the white dragon hide). Can't say I blamed him.

And the bard epic is just ridiculously good :/

[Kevynne]

powerful=Mage
useful= cleric
useless= necromancer
best overall= bard

iirc pally and sk epics were also terrible.
and ranger epics are the only good thing about that class imo

[t0lkien]

I had to buy half my epic bits on live. Took me 18 months to get them all (30k for a White Scale I believe, as so many were lost to that stupid bloody cloak - that was a design mistake, to make an epic quest part also part of another fairly decent item). Luckily I found an area in Velious with busted pathing that allowed me to farm a reasonably sought after item, or I never would have gotten my epic. It took months of negotiating a fairly tenuous guild situation to get the final piece off Trak too. Ironically, the hardest bit off Phiny was denied me by a spawn jumper from the resident uber guild, and then a guy from that same guild gifted me an MQ on the same bit months later.

I don't hold out any hope for the epic on p1999 though. It sounds like it's all wrapped up by the top guilds, and I'm not really interested in poopsocking my way into digital uberness. Maybe if I can find a good place to camp and make some money...

[Aeolwind]

Obviously the original version will be working at onset. There should be no doubt of that. We have him spawned now with the correct model. Stats aren't right, loot table doesn't exist (and it will be an ugly one to get right), etc. But he is up in all his gray glory.

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The Ring Event/TOV changes were implemented due to exploitation. It followed the release of the Sleeper, but was unrelated.