Do P99 Devs, GMs and Guides Have Jobs?

[Shocore]

If you don't like the way it's run, don't play.

Or make your own server. With blackjack! And hookers!

[Aeolwind]

I'm helping out cause it is fun and entertaining. I'd help just cause Nil asked and I probably wouldn't help if someone else asked. It is an involved process with some headache inducing elements, but none of it is work or a job.

If the level of pie provided is insufficient, you are welcome at any point to find a new source of pie, or develop your own source of pie. However, there won't be pie subsidies supplied by the staff or piecare provided to those that are without pie.

At any time, pie could cease to flow for various reasons. I'd be sad, but it is the nature of pie. Complaining about the amount or quality of pie while not examining the copious amounts of good pie already provided is short sighted and does a disservice to the consumers of pie.

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by Aeolwind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm helping out cause it is fun and entertaining. I'd help just cause Nil asked and I probably wouldn't help if someone else asked. It is an involved process with some headache inducing elements, but none of it is work or a job.

If the level of pie provided is insufficient, you are welcome at any point to find a new source of pie, or develop your own source of pie. However, there won't be pie subsidies supplied by the staff or piecare provided to those that are without pie.

At any time, pie could cease to flow for various reasons. I'd be sad, but it is the nature of pie. Complaining about the amount or quality of pie while not examining the copious amounts of good pie already provided is short sighted and does a disservice to the consumers of pie.

Holy crap Aeolwind. That be some serious drugs u be using. Plz name your source so we can all write swell prose like that. Impressive. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Best post of the day for sure. Would read again for sure.

[lecompte]

Not to be a... decent person (eww) but it is not cool to launch a general attack on all the admins of a server that you can play on for free, without paying anything... ever.

If you have a specific concern to redress about the server in general, perhaps a more constructive tone would work better. If you have a concern to redress about a specific admin, perhaps a PM to one of the big two is in order.

Perhaps this thread would be more appropriate in RnF.

[joppykid]

This thread bleeds with the sense of entitlement people feel these days. It's absolutely mind-blowing how people think they deserve something without contributing anything.

[Scior]

Well, all I can say is thank you to the admins and people who make this server what it is.

Maybe it is not 100% perfect, but neither were live servers when SoE/Verant were hosting them. Only difference 13 years ago is that we were paying for this and SoE/Verant was making a lot of money.

Now we don't have to pay a dime, and the people running the show don't make any profit.

So thank you guys for your work, and helping me to enjoy this game once again.

[Alawen]

This thread took a fascinating turn with the inclusion of estimated hourly values for the development team. We're about 3 1/2 years into this experiment. I would estimate the sweat equity at somewhere around half a million dollars. That might sound like a lot, but honestly in business terms this project has been amazingly efficient in hourly productivity.

If I were senior management at Sony or Blizzard, I'd be looking into acquiring this development team.

[August]

Originally Posted by Alawen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This thread took a fascinating turn with the inclusion of estimated hourly values for the development team. We're about 3 1/2 years into this experiment. I would estimate the sweat equity at somewhere around half a million dollars. That might sound like a lot, but honestly in business terms this project has been amazingly efficient in hourly productivity.

If I were senior management at Sony or Blizzard, I'd be looking into acquiring this development team.

I think the biggest thing here is that when people put their hourly rate in here, they're actually working on the project the whole time. Whereas at work, I might put in 2 hours of real work on my 8 hour day [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Enslaved [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and they are not fulfilling the obligations of their volunteer assignment

By definition, a volunteer cannot have obligations.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by Enslaved [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When you have qualified people who would take over their positions in a second, given the opportunity, and they are not fulfilling the obligations of their volunteer assignment, what else do you call it but not doing their jobs?

What would you think of a volunteer firefighter who didn't fight fires? I would say, "that man is not doing his job."

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you got a point there