A Word of Warning to the New (and Naive)

[Systolic]

Originally Posted by chtulu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Once again ill ask. Where is the proof that my accounts flagged prior to purchase? I only had about 30k when I sold it. That's not big money. My bet is he or his friend who gave him all his stuff rmt'd and is why he got banned.

Again, I have another account and it is not banned.

If I RMT'ed, and they looked at that account, and wanted to ban my IP I would have lost all of my accounts, but I still have an account with my lowbie characters on it, and I also still have his necro and full access to it.

It was only the account that I got from you that was banned.

Furthermore, the GMs have notified me that it was banned for MacroQuest2 usage. I don't even own that program.

[Uggme]

Originally Posted by Systolic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Furthermore, the GMs have notified me that it was banned for MacroQuest2 usage. I don't even own that program.

This appears to be proof that, before the account was sold to you for plat, that the person selling the account was using MQ. In which case, perhaps there are legitimate grounds to both prove that person is in fact a cheater and ban his accounts as well for using illigal programs!

If I were you I'd continue to follow up with staff and you might be able to take some trash off the server [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Gadwen]

I find these stories interesting, the account was banned within 1 week of the sale for MQ...so how did it sit there long enough to even get sold? Do the GMs not see the "flag" on the account until someone is actually logged in? How is it that these accounts aren't banned until someone sells them?

On another note, this is why I would never buy an account, not to say that there aren't legit account sellers out there. But these kinds of things are just way too common, people knowingly sell accounts that they used to RMT or to cheat and double fuck the server by screwing another player over along with it.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by Gadwen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I find these stories interesting, the account was banned within 1 week of the sale for MQ...so how did it sit there long enough to even get sold? Do the GMs not see the "flag" on the account until someone is actually logged in? How is it that these accounts aren't banned until someone sells them?

On another note, this is why I would never buy an account, not to say that there aren't legit account sellers out there. But these kinds of things are just way too common, people knowingly sell accounts that they used to RMT or to cheat and double fuck the server by screwing another player over along with it.

Pretty sure they only do bans in waves. Like they have stuff running all the time to find cheaters but only pull out the ban hammer once every few weeks after going through them. And their are plenty of legitimate accounts sellers(me for one [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]) but some people are giving us a bad rap. And to the person that said leveling was fun. Leveling is worse then sitting and camping gear or Playing EC market.

[Uggme]

Originally Posted by Thulack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And their are plenty of legitimate accounts sellers(me for one [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]) but some people are giving us a bad rap. And to the person that said leveling was fun. Leveling is worse then sitting and camping gear or Playing EC market.

There are no legitimate account sellers. Every single one is walking a very narrow line regarding the rules of the server. All it takes is a means to PUNISH what you are doing to make the whole thing a bannable offence. So yea, You all have bad raps due to the innately underhanded nature of the transactions you process.

Secondly, Your opinion on leveling and playing the game is concerning and revealing at the same time. The journey through classic EQ, and playing through it (read: leveling up in it) is exactly why this server is about. If you are not having fun doing that, then you might want to try a different game or MMO. There are plenty out there with Micro-transaction models which have built in means to skip content and level faster.

Go play those.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by Uggme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are no legitimate account sellers. Every single one is walking a very narrow line regarding the rules of the server. All it takes is a means to PUNISH what you are doing to make the whole thing a bannable offence. So yea, You all have bad raps due to the innately underhanded nature of the transactions you process.

Secondly, Your opinion on leveling and playing the game is concerning and revealing at the same time. The journey through classic EQ, and playing through it (read: leveling up in it) is exactly why this server is about. If you are not having fun doing that, then you might want to try a different game or MMO. There are plenty out there with Micro-transaction models which have built in means to skip content and level faster.

Go play those.

I'm doing everything within legal rules on this server. The day they make account selling illegal then i will stop. But until then there is plat to be made buying/selling accounts. I'm sorry you don't get to experience all parts of the game such as the economy aspects of it. Your the same person i talked to in EC a month ago when you were bitching in OOC cause TMO was selling raid loots. Just as i have been told when it comes to rotation's "Thats not how it was on every server" so your experiences with guilds selling raid loots or people selling accounts(it was bannable on live but yet tons still did it) isnt classic. Well its not classic for me with varience or guilds just being douches for that matter when it comes to raid mobs. To each their own. I'll continue to flip accounts til i'm not allowed then i will sit back and watch the economy erupt with inflation and the pop go down because no one wants to level up new toons because they just cant buy a higher level toon.

[Uggme]

Originally Posted by Thulack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm doing everything within legal rules on this server. The day they make account selling illegal then i will stop. But until then there is plat to be made buying/selling accounts. I'm sorry you don't get to experience all parts of the game such as the economy aspects of it. Your the same person i talked to in EC a month ago when you were bitching in OOC cause TMO was selling raid loots. Just as i have been told when it comes to rotation's "Thats not how it was on every server" so your experiences with guilds selling raid loots or people selling accounts(it was bannable on live but yet tons still did it) isnt classic. Well its not classic for me with varience or guilds just being douches for that matter when it comes to raid mobs. To each their own. I'll continue to flip accounts til i'm not allowed then i will sit back and watch the economy erupt with inflation and the pop go down because no one wants to level up new toons because they just cant buy a higher level toon.

Maybe you really should take my advice and play a different game. You seem burnt out and bitter.

Oh, and my main concern then was that the items were stolen or being sold unnecessarily by someone who was given loot in a guild, which would have hurt the guild and reflected badly on the person. You informed me that it was, instead, a guild bank for TMO selling droppable raid items, which made more sense. That also gave me some good insight into the high end status of the game. For that, I thank you.

[Lyra]

Originally Posted by Enslaved [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This server is EXACTLY about what each person wants to make of it. You are more in the wrong for telling X what EQ is supposed to be about than X is for making EQ what he wants it to be about for him.

Don't really follow your line of reasoning.

Monopoly comes with rules. Do you follow the rules when you play the game? Maybe you roll the thimble and the hat instead of the dice.

[Uggme]

This is from the front page of www.project1999.org

Relive the classic Everquest MMORPG Gaming Experience as it was in 1999 and onward. Project 1999 is a free to play Emulated Everquest Server giving Players the opportunity to experience Classic EQ Once again

This appears to quite clearly define what the purpose of the server is. It also clearly shows the intent of the gameplay, which is to re-experience classic EQ. Account selling was not a part of the picture classically. It was not just frowned upon, but it was bannable. This clearly dictates how you are supposed to enjoy playing on the server.

So, there you have it.

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by Enslaved [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This server is EXACTLY about what each person wants to make of it. You are more in the wrong for telling X what EQ is supposed to be about than X is for making EQ what he wants it to be about for him.

I hate to say this Slave but I agree with you. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Tradeskills come to mind. I would be a JC sitting in the tunnel making tons of plat if I wasn't too lazy to level up a Enchanter high enough to do it. But people do just that. And play the buy low sell high thingy.

Being 50 and above on this server is not what it is cracked up to be. I laugh my ass off on the people that want to be Pled to 60. What a joke. The fun is in the lower level zones trying to get some decent gear in a group, or pulling off breaking a camp solo.