not a single player has told me to plan on raiding

[Gadwen]

This thread is a real downer.

[Skope]

Originally Posted by Gadwen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This thread is a real downer.

The real downer is that a player has to post something like this for them to get it. That's the state of raiding, though. The GMs/staff bitching about the behavior of the players while pandering and bending over backwards to maintain that same douchebag behavior.

But maybe changing the behavior of all the NPCs in the game to maintain a non-classic mechanic that doesn't work and adding another variance on top of it was to the benefit of everyone on the server. Sure, the players said the exact opposite, but what the fuck do they know?

[Gadwen]

Originally Posted by Skope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The real downer is that a player has to post something like this for them to get it. That's the state of raiding, though. The GMs/staff bitching about the behavior of the players while pandering and bending over backwards to maintain that same douchebag behavior.

But maybe changing the behavior of all the NPCs in the game to maintain a non-classic mechanic that doesn't work and adding another variance on top of it was to the benefit of everyone on the server. Sure, the players said the exact opposite, but what the fuck do they know?

The fact that Rants and Flames even exists should tell you all you need to know about the desire here to bring any kind of change to the raid scene.

[Thulack]

As much as people hate instancing, this is the exact reasoning behind. People still have to put in their work killing the mobs in instanced zones but it gives everyone a chance at atleast attempting it to see if they are capable of doing the content. I bet more guilds would be capable of killing trak if they could take 45 mins-1hour to actually setup instead of having to try and rush to him and beat out other guilds. Not wanting rotations is a completely selfish approach to game. If guilds are capable of taking out mobs why shouldnt they get a chance without having to wakeup at 6am on a workday or saturday afternoon when they are suppose to do things with their family.

[Gadwen]

Originally Posted by Thulack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As much as people hate instancing, this is the exact reasoning behind. People still have to put in their work killing the mobs in instanced zones but it gives everyone a chance at atleast attempting it to see if they are capable of doing the content. I bet more guilds would be capable of killing trak if they could take 45 mins-1hour to actually setup instead of having to try and rush to him and beat out other guilds. Not wanting rotations is a completely selfish approach to game. If guilds are capable of taking out mobs why shouldnt they get a chance without having to wakeup at 6am on a workday or saturday afternoon when they are suppose to do things with their family.

When competing for mobs in EQ is the most exciting part of your life, you'll understand.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by Gadwen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When competing for mobs in EQ is the most exciting part of your life, you'll understand.

True. I forgot there are people that still get boners playing a 14 year old game.

[Gadwen]

Originally Posted by Thulack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

True. I forgot there are people that still get boners playing a 14 year old game.

P99 raiding is for people that are desperate for a competitive outlet, but don't want to get involved in anything where they can actually "lose". Winning is really awesome in P99, you are the king of the game when you get that spawn and those loots. When you lose, nothing happens...nobody killed you or took your items..they just got loots before you could. It's not about skill, the tactics to kill every single mob in this game have been published for a decade. It's really only about having more people.

It's a safe kind of competition where you can act like a child, never really lose, and feel like you are awesome when you FTE.

[Atmas]

Originally Posted by Thulack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not wanting rotations is a completely selfish approach to game.

But demanding rotations isn't right?

[Gadwen]

Originally Posted by Atmas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But demanding rotations isn't right?

I really want you to elaborate on this argument.

[Atmas]

Originally Posted by Gadwen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I really want you to elaborate on this argument.

Quite simply its someone wanting to get more oppurtunities at the cost of someone else getting fewer.