Zero Reasons not to Wipe

[ConQuistador]

Thepen your comments just cement the fact that you are a fat loser who collects welfare checks and has an obama phone "winning in eq=winning at life" i hope you said that as a joke, but either way I know you truly believe that, i feel sorry for you

[Thepen]

Ouch. Why you gotta hurt me bro? Government programs are there for a reason.

[Thepen]

Yeah, I believe winning in EQ is winning in life. That's why I'm in Nihilum....oh wait, I'm not.

[Malevz]

Have you considered forming up under Brobb/Kilkur. I remember Brobb from VZ, wasn't a bad guy, and seems to be a better leader than Azrael's. I mean I can see the scrambling for a server wipe cause you've lost again, and you're running out of guild names... but you should consider you have the same leadership, plus you put your faith in Kringe, so the problem is clear.

Instead of merging Force into Azrael, Azrael could app to force and have better leadership.

[GrobbGangsta]

Originally Posted by Malevz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Have you considered forming up under Brobb/Kilkur. I remember Brobb from VZ, wasn't a bad guy, and seems to be a better leader than Azrael's. I mean I can see the scrambling for a server wipe cause you've lost again, and you're running out of guild names... but you should consider you have the same leadership, plus you put your faith in Kringe, so the problem is clear.

Instead of merging Force into Azrael, Azrael could app to force and have better leadership.

My argument is "you won, lets play again" and your argument is "WE WON!"

[nilbog]

It amazes me how well people get along with each other.

On live, there were many more guilds. Was it because of more players?.. That was my original thought but now I'm not really sure. I think people have fallen into sheep roles where as long as someone is willing to lead, they will march 10x10 as long as they get loot.

I would have thought there would be a point where people would be like.. FUUUUUCK YOU, I'm out. That doesn't seem to happen. Are the leaders really that good, or are the followers sheeped out?

This 'problem' could be resolved by players leaving their current guilds and making more.. guilds. This power does reside with the people. I'm sure I'll get responses like, wipe the server, or that I don't know what I'm talking about.. but.. this is something I've seen on both pve and pvp now, and it's different than live.. emu phenomenon?

[Vile]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This 'problem' could be resolved by players leaving their current guilds and making more.. guilds. This power does reside with the people. I'm sure I'll get responses like, wipe the server, or that I don't know what I'm talking about.. but.. this is something I've seen on both pve and pvp now, and it's different than live.. emu phenomenon?

pras nilbog.

also increase xp up to lvl 45 will help big time.. imo. server is so top end heavy.. i havent seen anyone in my lvl range...

[GrobbGangsta]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It amazes me how well people get along with each other.

On live, there were many more guilds. Was it because of more players?.. That was my original thought but now I'm not really sure. I think people have fallen into sheep roles where as long as someone is willing to lead, they will march 10x10 as long as they get loot.

I would have thought there would be a point where people would be like.. FUUUUUCK YOU, I'm out. That doesn't seem to happen. Are the leaders really that good, or are the followers sheeped out?

This 'problem' could be resolved by players leaving their current guilds and making more.. guilds. This power does reside with the people. I'm sure I'll get responses like, wipe the server, or that I don't know what I'm talking about.. but.. this is something I've seen on both pve and pvp now, and it's different than live.. emu phenomenon?

Regardless of this phenomenon, and what causes it, there are a few realities:

1. Nobody is leaving Nihilum, and it isn't breaking up
2. The server pop on red is returning to dark ages
3. Yellow text ain't bringing us back to 200 at peak times

So, would you rather stick to your guns, and stand by the no wipe policy as the server dwindles to nothing to appease those who currently have a stranglehold, or would you rather start the cycle again, and hundreds of people swarm back in playing classic PVP?

As to Raze's concern, once again dude, I am not suggesting this happen every six months, but only now because it seems absolutely necessary. It has been two years.

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by GrobbGangsta [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Regardless of this phenomenon, and what causes it, there are a few realities:

1. Nobody is leaving Nihilum, and it isn't breaking up
2. The server pop on red is returning to dark ages
3. Yellow text ain't bringing us back to 200 at peak times

So, would you rather stick to your guns, and stand by the no wipe policy as the server dwindles to nothing to appease those who currently have a stranglehold, or would you rather start the cycle again, and hundreds of people swarm back in playing classic PVP?

As to Raze's concern, once again dude, I am not suggesting this happen every six months, but only now because it seems absolutely necessary. It has been two years.

Like I have said, a wipe is something I'd be against. You might not like the people that play, play yourself, or not like the current standing of the server but it doesn't change the fact that people do play. I'm not resetting the server on whims, and also I'm not responsible for doing so. I occasionally get feedback and try to communicate. Would I rather.. is irrelevant. I'd rather there be a constantly rotating weekly server with Highlander rules and reincarnation. The point I'm getting at is.. there are > 0 reasons not to wipe the server.

Originally Posted by reddi lol [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ready to have a bunch of 10-15 man guilds that do seb and pvp but web Nihilum has a 100 man rosterx3 vP geared alts plugged into zones for lemmings style PvP it's not a viable option.

Forced to counterzerg under shit guild with shit leader spending 3 hours buffing and lfg while being told to follow a bard that doesn't selo your group and has your 30 members stream across 3 zones and get 1 shotted.

Classic. Vlassic.

Was referring to the guilds with huge rosters. I posed this same question a long time ago for the pve server, and the replies were that guilds were massive because there is variance. Here, the same thing happens and there is no variance, which led me to ask it again.



I'm just here chatting it up in r&f, not to the change the world. Although I have a vote in changing the world, you should keep in mind what a % of people want is relative to the people vocally asking for it.

I'm straight up saying.. it is within the power of the leading guilds to change the server as it stands. Why isn't that done? Is it only for loot?

[GrobbGangsta]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like I have said, a wipe is something I'd be against. You might not like the people that play, play yourself, or not like the current standing of the server but it doesn't change the fact that people do play. I'm not resetting the server on whims, and also I'm not responsible for doing so. I occasionally get feedback and try to communicate. Would I rather.. is irrelevant. I'd rather there be a constantly rotating weekly server with Highlander rules and reincarnation. The point I'm getting at is.. there are > 0 reasons not to wipe the server.

It would only be a "whim" if the server population were healthy, which it is not. A "whim" suggests that there are no problems and I just want this for personal reasons.

In addition, saying you wont wipe the server because thats the rule you made a while ago is like people saying pot should not be decriminalized "because its the law," i.e. not a reason. Also, im not asking for "Highlander rules and reincarnation." Im asking for a change that would temporarily disadvantage a tiny minority of outspoken Nihilum members and revitalize red 99 for the rest of us.