Adding the Planes of Power in to the original trilogy

[Mountaineer]

Luclin sucks and adds nothing to EQ except AAs, which are meh!

POP is the best!

[Shadey]

Originally Posted by Mountaineer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Luclin sucks and adds nothing to EQ except AAs, which are meh!

POP is the best!

WRONG! Luclin was the best and most thought out expac and brought many great advancements to the game. ALL the zones were great. It had content for every level of char from 1 to 60 to AWESOME raids.

[burnsai]

Dumesh that is everything that I wish Sony would understand and do.. make it ala carte.. because some of this stuff was good.. but so much sucked.. I like your ideas alot.
Luclin was definately where I finally was able to shake the EQ fever and come out of my trance..I quit not long after.. I only have been back now for 3 months..

[Shadey]

Updated Char models were awesome! No more square heads and bodies. YAY!

I'd leave the cats like they are. Don't like the Kerrans any better then the Vah Shir prob less as they look like funky starwars wookie (spelling) rejects with cat heads.

Don't mind the idea of another continent though.

Bazaar was there but not implemented for use (seen this on a number of threads and number of times here). Guess you all don't remember that. EC was alive and flowing during ALL of luclin. LOL

Leave the raid content as is. Why mess up something that is GREAT already. VT was a great raid zone, just time consuming.

the rest isn't so bad and wouldn't destroy the expac. (IF all zones are still there and connected in the same way).

Oh and I don't think the spires were a big deal. It added a little convenience for those that didn't have a way to be ported around or didn't want to pay for ports. While not giving access to every single zone in the game (there were only one on each continent). And thats if you waited for the spire to take you up and then again to take you back down. Not much different then the boat ride imo in terms of time spent.

[Dumesh Uhl'Belk]

Originally Posted by Shadey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Updated Char models were awesome! No more square heads and bodies. YAY!

Matter of opinion certainly. There are many of us that disagree. Also, it marks a clear line of departure from the classic look.

Originally Posted by Shadey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd leave the cats like they are. Don't like the Kerrans any better then the Vah Shir prob less as they look like funky starwars wookie (spelling) rejects with cat heads.

again, matter of taste. I prefer the classic look and a tighter integration with classic lore.

Originally Posted by Shadey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't mind the idea of another continent though.

Room for agreement after all.

Originally Posted by Shadey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bazaar was there but not implemented for use (seen this on a number of threads and number of times here). Guess you all don't remember that. EC was alive and flowing during ALL of luclin. LOL

Yes, it took a while, but the bazaar did go live about 3 months before PoP was released. In any event, I don't want it.

Originally Posted by Shadey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Leave the raid content as is. Why mess up something that is GREAT already. VT was a great raid zone, just time consuming.

I liked many of the raid encounters in Luclin, especially Ssra temple. However, I was approaching this more from a desire to revamp the lore to avoid aliens and anything that looked too divergent from original Norrathian biology. Shissar are cool. Xin Thall Centiens, Netherbians, and Ahkevans are all a bit weird.

Originally Posted by Shadey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the rest isn't so bad and wouldn't destroy the expac. (IF all zones are still there and connected in the same way).

Mostly, i suppose if I went through it with a fine tooth comb, there might be one or two alterations I'd make to make sure it seemed like a continent with some subterranean areas and not the moon.

Originally Posted by Shadey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh and I don't think the spires were a big deal. It added a little convenience for those that didn't have a way to be ported around or didn't want to pay for ports. While not giving access to every single zone in the game (there were only one on each continent). And thats if you waited for the spire to take you up and then again to take you back down. Not much different then the boat ride imo in terms of time spent.

Sorry man, I'm big on in-game geography. I love for things that are far away to be... far away. I much prefer boat access. There would still be the port spells to the nexus, and the other port spots, was it scarlet desert and where else? anyway, I'd add combine portal and druid circle art assets to those zones to unify the theme and reason for ports existing in the first place.

[Shadey]

Originally Posted by Dumesh Uhl'Belk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Matter of opinion certainly. There are many of us that disagree. Also, it marks a clear line of departure from the classic look.

For me and many others Luclin is considered classic and prior to the ruining of EQ by SOE. and the Char models were part of that. And yes is a matter of opinion. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[/QUOTE]again, matter of taste. I prefer the classic look and a tighter integration with classic lore.[/QUOTE]

Had no problem with the lore change for the most part. Was mostly speaking to the funky looking wookies with cat heads idea. Which was bad IMO. And i'm sure others would agree.

[/QUOTE]Yes, it took a while, but the bazaar did go live about 3 months before PoP was released. In any event, I don't want it.[/QUOTE]

I stand corrected. It was right before PoP was released. Looked up the patch history and verified. I could swear it was with or after PoP though. heh.

[/QUOTE] I liked many of the raid encounters in Luclin, especially Ssra temple. However, I was approaching this more from a desire to revamp the lore to avoid aliens and anything that looked too divergent from original Norrathian biology. Shissar are cool. Xin Thall Centiens, Netherbians, and Ahkevans are all a bit weird.[/QUOTE]

Same could be said about other mobs in what you consider classic that are not classic D&D type monsters. Though these were a bit more weird yes. heh. But I they fit well into what the xpac was, based on the moon above Norath.

[Deathrydar]

Originally Posted by Shadey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Updated Char models were awesome! No more square heads and bodies. YAY!

OMG! BLASPHEMY! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
I'll take the old character models over the new ones ANY DAY!!!

[falkun]

Originally Posted by Shadey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Updated Char models were awesome! No more square heads and bodies. YAY!

No. Just no.

I don't want all the small races to look more like each other than they already do.
I don't want all the elves to have this wierd stance where they put all their weight on their back leg all the time.

I want my male high elf paladins and clerics to keep their awesome chainmail skirt around their plate greaves.

I want my high elf paladins and clerics to keep their roman style helmets instead of that tomahawk BS.

I don't want my elves running around like bowlegged retards.

I don't need more reflection off of erudite foreheads.

I don't want two-handers to start coming down from over the head, keep the swing over the shoulder.

I want 2H-piercing weapons to still be used by TWO hands.

I don't want wood elf models to go from being slender to having these puffed out chests everytime they put on a plate BP.

I'm sure there's more, but that's what I can think of for now.

[Shadey]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No. Just no.

I don't want all the small races to look more like each other than they already do.
I don't want all the elves to have this wierd stance where they put all their weight on their back leg all the time.

I want my male high elf paladins and clerics to keep their awesome chainmail skirt around their plate greaves.

I want my high elf paladins and clerics to keep their roman style helmets instead of that tomahawk BS.

I don't want my elves running around like bowlegged retards.

I don't need more reflection off of erudite foreheads.

I don't want two-handers to start coming down from over the head, keep the swing over the shoulder.

I want 2H-piercing weapons to still be used by TWO hands.

I don't want wood elf models to go from being slender to having these puffed out chests everytime they put on a plate BP.

I'm sure there's more, but that's what I can think of for now.

Thanks for the detail. LOL Some of this I can agree with some not. Mostly the actions things with the weapons. As far as the models are concerned I liked them all and could tell small races from others easily. LOL

[Deathrydar]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't need more reflection off of erudite foreheads.

Pfft! What this game needs is more erudite forehead reflection!
I got a fever! And the only cure is more erudite forehead reflection.

Anyway....Back when I played SoD, the ability to have the newer character models was there but a lot of people (like me) chose not to play with them on because we liked the older models better. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]