Nocturne

[Hasbinbad]

Experiment:
Question: Do people who don't believe in evolution know what evolution is?

Background research: p99 forums, god threads, talking to charlatans, christians, and witch doctors.

Hypothesis: A persons belief in evolution is positively correlative to that persons understanding of evolution.

Tests:
a.) survey people who state they do not believe in evolution on their knowledge of evolution.

Originally Posted by Nocturne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There isn't any.

Originally Posted by Black Jesus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

over infinite generations subtle changes lead to new organisms

b.) summarize evolution to a similar degree of sophistication as the highest level found in a.

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Baseline genetic variation coupled with environmental change cause fast adaptation via natural selection, followed by long periods of stability.

Analysis: In comparing the results from A and B, I notice a marked difference is sophistication. Coupled with a complete lack of any sort of useful working definition in group A.
Conclusion: People who do not believe in evolution do not understand evolution.

[Black Jesus]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Analysis: In comparing the results from A and B, I notice a marked difference is sophistication. Coupled with a complete lack of any sort of useful working definition in group A.
Conclusion: People who do not believe in evolution do not understand evolution.

You can have evolution with artificial selection/selective breeding. Therefore you are talking at a level of sophistication that was not posed in the original question, and thus your definition is vitiated in this context.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Black Jesus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can have evolution with artificial selection/selective breeding.

Granted, but I was talking about "what is and has been" specifically pointed at making clear the idea of why transitional species generally do not pop up in the fossil record as often as large masses of fossils of stable species. I should have made this more clear.

Originally Posted by Black Jesus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Therefore you are talking at a level of sophistication that was not posed in the original question, and thus your definition is vitiated in this context.

I see what you're saying here, but I think you're disingenuously reaching a bit to try and make my definition invalid because of the technicality that evolution "can possibly" be "slightly different in specific ways" than what I have stated only when humans get involved to change the existing mechanism.

[Black Jesus]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I see what you're saying here, but I think you're disingenuously reaching a bit to try and make my definition invalid because of the technicality that evolution "can possibly" be "slightly different in specific ways" than what I have stated only when humans get involved to change the existing mechanism.

or interdimensionals bro. don't forget the reptilian bloodlines are a hybrid species

[Hasbinbad]

Discussion: So it has been shown that positive correlation exists between members of the study who state they do not believe in evolution and their level of understanding of evolution, but the study should be revised to include more input from people who state they "do" believe in evolution, because group B was only represented by one person, and thus no correlation can be shown.

[Zadrian]

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[Daldolma]

if evolution is real, explain alarti

[Ahldagor]

curious thought here. along with hbb's analysis which is pretty damn good, is there something that is in the evolution-denier's brain that assumes that evolution is an immediate contradiction to any god-based teleological notion?

[Black Jesus]

I reject all theories of science. Laws don't make assumptions.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Black Jesus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I reject all theories of science.

You cannot arbitrarily reject findings without exposing yourself as a charlatan.